There are no absolutes. No right and wrong. Haven't you learned anything working for the Powers? There are only choices.

Jasmine ,'Power Play'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


§ ita § - Nov 15, 2013 7:45:47 am PST #21620 of 28370
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

genre fiction, like fantasy, science fiction, and children’s and young adult literature

Interesting. What is non-genre fiction to the NYT? White men's 'reality' books? Or white women's? Straight, I'm assuming.

(You are ethnic. I am. Just am.)


Jesse - Nov 15, 2013 8:11:01 am PST #21621 of 28370
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Capital L Literature. I.e., depressing stories about rich white people, right?


§ ita § - Nov 15, 2013 8:12:57 am PST #21622 of 28370
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

At least they're not happy.


DavidS - Nov 15, 2013 9:16:05 am PST #21623 of 28370
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Capital L Literature. I.e., depressing stories about rich white people, right?

Don't tell the Nobel committee or they'll take Toni Morrison's prize back.


§ ita § - Nov 15, 2013 9:18:05 am PST #21624 of 28370
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Are you missing the point of my question, David?


DavidS - Nov 15, 2013 9:24:28 am PST #21625 of 28370
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Are you missing the point of my question, David?

I thought Jesse already addressed your question with the "Capital L" literature. Which I think is correct.

I just disagreed with her characterization of Capital L Literature.

So I really wasn't addressing your question at all - though it was a perfectly valid question.

Did I miss something else?


shrift - Nov 15, 2013 9:36:08 am PST #21626 of 28370
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I don't think occasionally including women and/or POC on their "Capital L" literature lists counterbalances the domination of Straight White Dude angst.


Jesse - Nov 15, 2013 9:36:15 am PST #21627 of 28370
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Although, for what it's worth, I remember Barnes & Noble as having both "fiction" and "literature" sections, in addition to all of the ones in that sentence you quoted (and more).


Steph L. - Nov 15, 2013 9:38:27 am PST #21628 of 28370
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I don't think occasionally including women and/or POC on their "Capital L" literature lists counterbalances the domination of Straight White Dude angst.

Right. Including Toni Morrison is textbook exceptionalism, not a redefining of capital-L "Literature."


Amy - Nov 15, 2013 9:48:06 am PST #21629 of 28370
Because books.

It's mostly Straight White Dude Angst, but the line for me usually falls between Books They Will Give Nobels and Bookers To, and Books They Won't.