You do well to flee, townspeople! I will pillage your lands and dwellings! I will burn your crops and make merry sport with your more attractive daughters! Ha ha ha! Mark my words! Ooh! Ale! I smell delicious ale!

Olaf the Troll ,'Showtime'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Kat - Nov 15, 2013 6:04:13 am PST #21618 of 28370
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

NEWSFLASH: Mormons tend to write genre fiction.

The New York Times is always so cutting edge.


Amy - Nov 15, 2013 6:24:40 am PST #21619 of 28370
Because books.

I hate the old-fashioned convention of "Mr. Morgan" and "Ms. Nunes," too. The Grey Lady needs to take some petticoats off.

I didn't know James Dashner was LDS.


§ ita § - Nov 15, 2013 7:45:47 am PST #21620 of 28370
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

genre fiction, like fantasy, science fiction, and children’s and young adult literature

Interesting. What is non-genre fiction to the NYT? White men's 'reality' books? Or white women's? Straight, I'm assuming.

(You are ethnic. I am. Just am.)


Jesse - Nov 15, 2013 8:11:01 am PST #21621 of 28370
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Capital L Literature. I.e., depressing stories about rich white people, right?


§ ita § - Nov 15, 2013 8:12:57 am PST #21622 of 28370
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

At least they're not happy.


DavidS - Nov 15, 2013 9:16:05 am PST #21623 of 28370
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Capital L Literature. I.e., depressing stories about rich white people, right?

Don't tell the Nobel committee or they'll take Toni Morrison's prize back.


§ ita § - Nov 15, 2013 9:18:05 am PST #21624 of 28370
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Are you missing the point of my question, David?


DavidS - Nov 15, 2013 9:24:28 am PST #21625 of 28370
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Are you missing the point of my question, David?

I thought Jesse already addressed your question with the "Capital L" literature. Which I think is correct.

I just disagreed with her characterization of Capital L Literature.

So I really wasn't addressing your question at all - though it was a perfectly valid question.

Did I miss something else?


shrift - Nov 15, 2013 9:36:08 am PST #21626 of 28370
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

I don't think occasionally including women and/or POC on their "Capital L" literature lists counterbalances the domination of Straight White Dude angst.


Jesse - Nov 15, 2013 9:36:15 am PST #21627 of 28370
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Although, for what it's worth, I remember Barnes & Noble as having both "fiction" and "literature" sections, in addition to all of the ones in that sentence you quoted (and more).