Death is your art. You make it with your hands day after day. That final gasp, that look of peace. And part of you is desperate to know: What's it like? Where does it lead you? And now you see, that's the secret. Not the punch you didn't throw or the kicks you didn't land. She really wanted it. Every Slayer has a death wish. Even you.

Spike ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Polter-Cow - May 30, 2013 8:09:04 am PDT #20840 of 28370
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Textually, no - we've been told that Ned Stark is his father and that his mother's name was Willa (or something).

Yep, and I took that as truth until I started seeing theories.

I think it will be, in the end.

Given the implications of it, I think it's going to have to come into play. I wonder if Bran's time-traveling tree adventures will be what gets the confirmation.


Jessica - May 30, 2013 8:09:25 am PDT #20841 of 28370
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

And since Bran is a magic tree now, he could probably find out on his own. Not sure how he'd tell anyone, though.

(If you haven't read book 5, don't highlight that.)


DebetEsse - May 30, 2013 8:14:47 am PDT #20842 of 28370
Woe to the fucking wicked.

There are all sorts of things that are left to the readers to piece together (e.g. What happened to the Frey's who disappeared on the way to Winterfell in book 5* ) that it makes fan theories about other odd things (Why DID Tywin's corpse smell so damn bad?) seem plausible. My favorite crackpot theory is that Cersei and Jaime aren't Lannisters, as the king took certain "liberties" on their parents' wedding night.

* The "Rat Cook" (or whatever the story was) reference at the feast is a clue.


Jessica - May 30, 2013 8:16:14 am PDT #20843 of 28370
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Ooh, I like that last one! That would explain their Targaryen-esque sibling relationship, for one.


DebetEsse - May 30, 2013 8:33:01 am PDT #20844 of 28370
Woe to the fucking wicked.

And I deeply love the idea that Tyrion is Tywin's only kid. I suppose also that Jaime is both Kingslayer and Kinslayer. Okay, too, that NEITHER of Joffrey's sigils are accurate. That one makes me laugh.


Polter-Cow - May 30, 2013 9:05:45 am PDT #20845 of 28370
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Ha, Jessica, magic tree x-post.


askye - May 30, 2013 10:28:03 am PDT #20846 of 28370
Thrive to spite them

If both theories are right that would make Jamie and Cersei and Jon Snow siblings and Danaerys would be there aunt. Right? It's been awhile since I've read the books and I don't think I finished the last one.


le nubian - May 30, 2013 10:57:28 am PDT #20847 of 28370
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I have read the white font, and having not read any of the books, the white font does not make sense to me at all.

It has been fun to read though.


DebetEsse - May 30, 2013 11:00:45 am PDT #20848 of 28370
Woe to the fucking wicked.

No. Both the twins and Dany would be Aerys's. Jon would be nephew to the three of them, and half-brother to Griff (if he is who they say he is)


Polgara - May 30, 2013 11:01:54 am PDT #20849 of 28370
Karma is a cat, sleeping in my lap cuz it loves me. ~TS

I've never read the books, and have only seen one episode, but thanks to this discussion, I just spent an hour reading all the character histories on Wikipedia. My brain hurts.