Simon: I'm trying to put this as delicately as I can... How do I know you won't kill me in my sleep? Mal: You don't know me, son. So let me explain this to you once: If I ever kill you, you'll be awake, you'll be facing me, and you'll be armed.

'Serenity'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


le nubian - May 30, 2013 11:07:26 am PDT #20850 of 28370
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

I just finished Tana French's Broken Harbor and after the first third of the book, I thought this was a really promising and interesting novel.

By the time I got to the end, I was pretty irritated and do not want to read any of the author's books again, and I cannot recommend this book to anyone at all.

The book is a "mystery" about the death of a family in a house in a remote seaside community in Ireland. There is one surviving member of the attack on the family. I will reveal no spoilers.

My first clue that I would not like the book is that the plot did not advance in any way about 30% in. The police investigators were still at the house, still in the first initial hours of investigation through a good bit of the book. Ostensibly the author was building character during that time, but unfortunately the character-building came apart at the seams in the latter part of the book when people acted completely out of character and inexplicably to get to the final very contrived events of the book.

What was worse is that there are characters in the book, whom the investigators encounter, who have mental illnesses. The author either didn't care or was sloppy about trying to explain what exactly was going on with the characters' illnesses. The particular symptoms and causes (if they could be established) would have been relevant to character development. Not a psychiatrist, but from my reading and knowing of others, psychological illnesses don't really work they way French portrayed them. I don't know what kind of research the author did, but man.


Tom Scola - May 30, 2013 11:08:13 am PDT #20851 of 28370
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

askye, that kind of speculation is pointless when Targaryens are involved, as illustrated by Oleanna's speech in the last TV episode.


Polter-Cow - May 30, 2013 11:09:38 am PDT #20852 of 28370
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

le nubian, that seems to be how that author works. I was reading reviews for In the Woods, and it also appears to be a "mystery" in that APPARENTLY THEY NEVER ACTUALLY SOLVE THE MURDER.


erin_obscure - May 30, 2013 12:27:45 pm PDT #20853 of 28370
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

LOL, I thought i was soooo clever to come up with that same theory of Jon Snow's parentage on my own. Along with, like, 98% of other readers. It totally makes, sense, what pinged with me was the Lyanna, according to everyone's version of the story except Robert's, didn't like Robert, didn't want to marry him, and very much liked Rhaegar, so why not run off with him? Plus the dying "on a bed of blood" (what makes a bed bloody more than childbirth? Not much) and the fact that Ned never reveals *what* she made him promise. Just "promise me". And it conveniently gives Dany a 2nd Targaryan male along with Griff for her triple Targaryan invasion. Tho wouldn't Jaime Lannister be a lovely possibility...especially if Jon actually does die after the events of the final book and isn't reborn in smoke like it seems he's gonna be.


askye - May 30, 2013 12:44:24 pm PDT #20854 of 28370
Thrive to spite them

Tom I haven't watched the series, except for the first episode and haven't really followed it.


Sue - May 30, 2013 3:51:15 pm PDT #20855 of 28370
hip deep in pie

Le nubian,

I just recently read all of French's books, and liked them, but Broken Harbour was probably my least favourite. I would say she is more interested in examining the lives and motivations of the detectives. I think the crimes come a close second. And I think at least one of the characters that I think you're talking about as having a mental illness is there to mainly to serve to enhance the main characters manpain. I agree her character rang false. If you didn't like this books, I'm pretty sure you won't like her others.

Polter, that's not quite right, they solve the murder at that is the basis of the plot, but a mystery that is background for the main character is never resolved.


le nubian - May 30, 2013 5:39:30 pm PDT #20856 of 28370
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

Sue,

I don't disagree with you, but the detective's mother was clearly bipolar and/or clinically depressed and coincidentally, his baby sister had hallucinations at an early age? That's kind of unheard of to happen that early, and when it does, I am not sure she would be all that functional as an adult. Anyway, why not explore genetic components to the mental illness in the family and concerns that the detective himself may have considered (and perhaps dismissed) having a serious illness himself? I don't understand how they could go down that road, and not completely flush it out in that instance.


hippocampus - May 31, 2013 3:16:53 am PDT #20857 of 28370
not your mom's socks.

Any Walter Jon Williams fans here?


Jessica - May 31, 2013 5:52:52 am PDT #20858 of 28370
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Yes, thanks for the link!


Sue - May 31, 2013 6:18:33 am PDT #20859 of 28370
hip deep in pie

Le Nub, I had kind of forgot about the mother already. I think she was trying to tie the sister's craziness to the trauma of her mother trying to take her with her when she committed suicide and may not have thought making a genetic link. I'm not sure what she intended. His sister's illness was all over the place. I think it was more poetic license than anything else.