Ha, Jessica, magic tree x-post.

If both theories are right that would make Jamie and Cersei and Jon Snow siblings and Danaerys would be there aunt. Right? It's been awhile since I've read the books and I don't think I finished the last one.

I have read the white font, and having not read any of the books, the white font does not make sense to me at all.

It has been fun to read though.

No. Both the twins and Dany would be Aerys's. Jon would be nephew to the three of them, and half-brother to Griff (if he is who they say he is)

I've never read the books, and have only seen one episode, but thanks to this discussion, I just spent an hour reading all the character histories on Wikipedia. My brain hurts.

I just finished Tana French's Broken Harbor and after the first third of the book, I thought this was a really promising and interesting novel.

By the time I got to the end, I was pretty irritated and do not want to read any of the author's books again, and I cannot recommend this book to anyone at all.

The book is a "mystery" about the death of a family in a house in a remote seaside community in Ireland. There is one surviving member of the attack on the family. I will reveal no spoilers.

My first clue that I would not like the book is that the plot did not advance in any way about 30% in. The police investigators were still at the house, still in the first initial hours of investigation through a good bit of the book. Ostensibly the author was building character during that time, but unfortunately the character-building came apart at the seams in the latter part of the book when people acted completely out of character and inexplicably to get to the final very contrived events of the book.

What was worse is that there are characters in the book, whom the investigators encounter, who have mental illnesses. The author either didn't care or was sloppy about trying to explain what exactly was going on with the characters' illnesses. The particular symptoms and causes (if they could be established) would have been relevant to character development. Not a psychiatrist, but from my reading and knowing of others, psychological illnesses don't really work they way French portrayed them. I don't know what kind of research the author did, but man.

askye, that kind of speculation is pointless when Targaryens are involved, as illustrated by Oleanna's speech in the last TV episode.

le nubian, that seems to be how that author works. I was reading reviews for In the Woods, and it also appears to be a "mystery" in that APPARENTLY THEY NEVER ACTUALLY SOLVE THE MURDER.

LOL, I thought i was soooo clever to come up with that same theory of Jon Snow's parentage on my own. Along with, like, 98% of other readers. It totally makes, sense, what pinged with me was the Lyanna, according to everyone's version of the story except Robert's, didn't like Robert, didn't want to marry him, and very much liked Rhaegar, so why not run off with him? Plus the dying "on a bed of blood" (what makes a bed bloody more than childbirth? Not much) and the fact that Ned never reveals *what* she made him promise. Just "promise me". And it conveniently gives Dany a 2nd Targaryan male along with Griff for her triple Targaryan invasion. Tho wouldn't Jaime Lannister be a lovely possibility...especially if Jon actually does die after the events of the final book and isn't reborn in smoke like it seems he's gonna be.

Tom I haven't watched the series, except for the first episode and haven't really followed it.