I may be love's bitch, but at least I'm man enough to admit it.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Nutty - Jan 10, 2007 6:03:22 am PST #1854 of 28172
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

1. How is a novel that came out in March 05 still eligible?? I know the Nebulas are annual awards.

2. As usual, I have read exactly 0 of the novels. (I do have one in my house, because I got it for free, and I've heard of exactly 2 others.)

3. How hilarious is it that the 3 Norton shortlisters are by two authors, who are husband and wife?? I'm not sure I would want to compete with my spouse.


§ ita § - Jan 10, 2007 6:56:47 am PST #1855 of 28172
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Here you go, Nutty:

A work's eligibility period runs for 12 months, counting from its official month of publication. Thus, a work that was published in June 2004 is eligible to receive recommendations until May 31st, 2005. This rolling eligibility period is intended to level the playing field so that works published at particular times of the year do not receive any benefit. As a consequence of rolling eligibility, a work published as early as February 2003 may appear on the 2004 Preliminary Ballot


Nutty - Jan 10, 2007 7:03:03 am PST #1856 of 28172
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

So it's just the fact the shortlist is coming out in January 2007, which is 22 months after the book came out (and presumably 6 months after the ballots went out), that is confusing.

Still, kinda lame.


§ ita § - Jan 10, 2007 7:09:59 am PST #1857 of 28172
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What's lame about it? Without this, works at the end of the award year are relatively fucked--works from the beginning of the year have had 12x as much time to accumulate recommendations. So they'd be much likelier to win.

Is there a better solution that you're thinking of?


Nutty - Jan 10, 2007 8:01:29 am PST #1858 of 28172
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Faster eyeballs.


Kate P. - Jan 10, 2007 2:13:55 pm PST #1859 of 28172
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Nebula Awards Shortlist

Hey, cool! I *just* finished reading Ellen Kushner's The Privilege of the Sword yesterday, and I really loved it. I haven't read anything else by her (though I now own Swordspoint as well, to be read soon) so I don't know how it compares, but I thought it was fantastic. The writing is lively and smooth, the plot quick and intriguing without being overly complex, and I loved all the characters. Some plot threads get wrapped up a little too quickly at the end, IMO, but that didn't bother me too much; I just would have liked to get to see more of Alec and Richard at the end, and maybe see Lucius and Teresa get to be happy together too. I can highly recommend it to anyone who likes fantasy of manners -- it's excellent stuff.

Ha, to the Larbalestier/Westerfeld domination of the Norton list. I just started Peeps a few days ago and am enjoying it immensely so far -- though it's not a book to read while eating, FYI. A little more information about hookworms and all kinds of ooky parasites than I need to see while putting food into my mouth.

Haven't read anything else on the list yet, but I'm about to order Paul Park's A Princess of Roumania for my section in the library, and we just got in Theodora Goss's book, which I've been meaning to read for a while. Ooh, and it's great to see "The Girl in the Fireplace" on the list! Doctor Who love! Didn't Steven Moffat also write "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances" (also nommed for last year's Nebula, IIRC)?


Strix - Jan 10, 2007 2:29:03 pm PST #1860 of 28172
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Me: It's where Jesus went to talk to G-d before the crucifixion,

and this sparks a maybe-dumb question: I know Jews don't write down all of God's name down, out of respect for it's holiness, right? How do you SAY "God" in convo, if you're an observant Jew? Or do you?

I never wondered this before now. Huh.


Gris - Jan 10, 2007 4:05:16 pm PST #1861 of 28172
Hey. New board.

If you're talking in English, you say "God." Which is not God's name. (I think the writing of "G-d" is mostly a tradition to preserve the idea of not writing God's name. Most Orthodox folk would tell you it's unnecessary, since the word "God" is not the holy word. My Orthodox ex-GF definitely wrote it out regularly.) If you're talking in Hebrew, I believe (though I'm uncertain) that you would say "Elohim" instead of His actual name. When you come to the name of God in the prayer books, anyway, you say Elohim.

The main reason it's not spoken often, I believe, is simply to preserve the reverence of it. It's not precisely forbidden to speak it, so much as it's seen as a very powerful word to say. Like the way fantasy novels talk about the true names of people/things.

The main reason it isn't often written down, from what I understand, is because if it is written down then the paper it is written on has to be treated as holy - there are various rituals that must be observed in its disposal, for example. Can't just throw God's name in the trash.


sumi - Jan 10, 2007 4:13:06 pm PST #1862 of 28172
Art Crawl!!!

I got a Borders gift card for Christmas, Privilege of the Sword is one of my possibles.


Strix - Jan 10, 2007 4:33:43 pm PST #1863 of 28172
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Thanks, Gris! So it's the writing down of the name that carries the power, and not the speaking of the name (since, IIRC, the true name of God is thought, in Jewish theology, to be unknowable, right?)