This is so nice. Having everyone together for my birthday. Of course, you could smash in all my toes with a hammer and it will still be the bestest Buffy Birthday Bash in a big long while.

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Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Gris - Jan 10, 2007 4:05:16 pm PST #1861 of 28172
Hey. New board.

If you're talking in English, you say "God." Which is not God's name. (I think the writing of "G-d" is mostly a tradition to preserve the idea of not writing God's name. Most Orthodox folk would tell you it's unnecessary, since the word "God" is not the holy word. My Orthodox ex-GF definitely wrote it out regularly.) If you're talking in Hebrew, I believe (though I'm uncertain) that you would say "Elohim" instead of His actual name. When you come to the name of God in the prayer books, anyway, you say Elohim.

The main reason it's not spoken often, I believe, is simply to preserve the reverence of it. It's not precisely forbidden to speak it, so much as it's seen as a very powerful word to say. Like the way fantasy novels talk about the true names of people/things.

The main reason it isn't often written down, from what I understand, is because if it is written down then the paper it is written on has to be treated as holy - there are various rituals that must be observed in its disposal, for example. Can't just throw God's name in the trash.


sumi - Jan 10, 2007 4:13:06 pm PST #1862 of 28172
Art Crawl!!!

I got a Borders gift card for Christmas, Privilege of the Sword is one of my possibles.


Strix - Jan 10, 2007 4:33:43 pm PST #1863 of 28172
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Thanks, Gris! So it's the writing down of the name that carries the power, and not the speaking of the name (since, IIRC, the true name of God is thought, in Jewish theology, to be unknowable, right?)


-t - Jan 10, 2007 4:52:40 pm PST #1864 of 28172
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

I hear "Hashem" mostly, in casual conversation That might just be my DH, though, I couldn't say. Or a Litvak thing.

It's another of those building a fence around the thing you really aren't supposed to do - don't do things that are anything like what is forbidden to absolutely keep you from doing the really forbidden thing. So, you don't say "God" just in case that is, through some amazing coincidence, the Name.

Eta: The tetragrammaton is holy, so you have the disposal problem Gris mentions, but it's also unpronounceable, so saying it isn't really a problem.


Typo Boy - Jan 10, 2007 4:54:57 pm PST #1865 of 28172
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

So, you don't say "God" just in case that is, through some amazing coincidence, the Name.

So is it OK to call him "Bob", or does the same problem apply? If "Bob" was the real name of God it would give a whole new meaning to the Buffista phrase "Bob likes carrots".


-t - Jan 10, 2007 4:57:10 pm PST #1866 of 28172
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Same problem, is my understanding. You can use Hashem or Elohim or Adonai b/c those are titles that have come down to us from the Patriarchs as being okay to use.

I think. My study has been piecemeal and haphazard.


Beverly - Jan 10, 2007 5:01:28 pm PST #1867 of 28172
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

(grumble) Took her long enough. I read Swordspoint and Thomas the Rhymer--what? fifteen years ago?--'bout damn time she wrote more about Alec and Richard.


Typo Boy - Jan 10, 2007 5:05:54 pm PST #1868 of 28172
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Ah, so the point of Hashem or Elohim or Adonai is that these are words we know for sure are not the real name of G_D. (subject to caveat that you are answering from memory).


-t - Jan 10, 2007 5:14:12 pm PST #1869 of 28172
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Part of the point, I'd say. Lots of points, I'm pretty sure.


Typo Boy - Jan 11, 2007 4:14:06 am PST #1870 of 28172
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Thanks -t