So it's just the fact the shortlist is coming out in January 2007, which is 22 months after the book came out (and presumably 6 months after the ballots went out), that is confusing.

Still, kinda lame.

What's lame about it? Without this, works at the end of the award year are relatively fucked--works from the beginning of the year have had 12x as much time to accumulate recommendations. So they'd be much likelier to win.

Is there a better solution that you're thinking of?

Faster eyeballs.

Nebula Awards Shortlist

Hey, cool! I *just* finished reading Ellen Kushner's The Privilege of the Sword yesterday, and I really loved it. I haven't read anything else by her (though I now own Swordspoint as well, to be read soon) so I don't know how it compares, but I thought it was fantastic. The writing is lively and smooth, the plot quick and intriguing without being overly complex, and I loved all the characters. Some plot threads get wrapped up a little too quickly at the end, IMO, but that didn't bother me too much; I just would have liked to get to see more of Alec and Richard at the end, and maybe see Lucius and Teresa get to be happy together too. I can highly recommend it to anyone who likes fantasy of manners -- it's excellent stuff.

Ha, to the Larbalestier/Westerfeld domination of the Norton list. I just started Peeps a few days ago and am enjoying it immensely so far -- though it's not a book to read while eating, FYI. A little more information about hookworms and all kinds of ooky parasites than I need to see while putting food into my mouth.

Haven't read anything else on the list yet, but I'm about to order Paul Park's A Princess of Roumania for my section in the library, and we just got in Theodora Goss's book, which I've been meaning to read for a while. Ooh, and it's great to see "The Girl in the Fireplace" on the list! Doctor Who love! Didn't Steven Moffat also write "The Empty Child"/"The Doctor Dances" (also nommed for last year's Nebula, IIRC)?

Me: It's where Jesus went to talk to G-d before the crucifixion,

and this sparks a maybe-dumb question: I know Jews don't write down all of God's name down, out of respect for it's holiness, right? How do you SAY "God" in convo, if you're an observant Jew? Or do you?

I never wondered this before now. Huh.

If you're talking in English, you say "God." Which is not God's name. (I think the writing of "G-d" is mostly a tradition to preserve the idea of not writing God's name. Most Orthodox folk would tell you it's unnecessary, since the word "God" is not the holy word. My Orthodox ex-GF definitely wrote it out regularly.) If you're talking in Hebrew, I believe (though I'm uncertain) that you would say "Elohim" instead of His actual name. When you come to the name of God in the prayer books, anyway, you say Elohim.

The main reason it's not spoken often, I believe, is simply to preserve the reverence of it. It's not precisely forbidden to speak it, so much as it's seen as a very powerful word to say. Like the way fantasy novels talk about the true names of people/things.

The main reason it isn't often written down, from what I understand, is because if it is written down then the paper it is written on has to be treated as holy - there are various rituals that must be observed in its disposal, for example. Can't just throw God's name in the trash.

I got a Borders gift card for Christmas, Privilege of the Sword is one of my possibles.

Thanks, Gris! So it's the writing down of the name that carries the power, and not the speaking of the name (since, IIRC, the true name of God is thought, in Jewish theology, to be unknowable, right?)

I hear "Hashem" mostly, in casual conversation That might just be my DH, though, I couldn't say. Or a Litvak thing.

It's another of those building a fence around the thing you really aren't supposed to do - don't do things that are anything like what is forbidden to absolutely keep you from doing the really forbidden thing. So, you don't say "God" just in case that is, through some amazing coincidence, the Name.

Eta: The tetragrammaton is holy, so you have the disposal problem Gris mentions, but it's also unpronounceable, so saying it isn't really a problem.

So, you don't say "God" just in case that is, through some amazing coincidence, the Name.

So is it OK to call him "Bob", or does the same problem apply? If "Bob" was the real name of God it would give a whole new meaning to the Buffista phrase "Bob likes carrots".