Haven't you killed me enough for one day?

Mal ,'War Stories'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2011 6:16:51 pm PDT #14459 of 28293
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Okay, in "duh" moments, I just read something that said that Hermione wiped her parents' memories. Ironically, I had completely forgotten that. Is this judged within the text?


Amy - Apr 15, 2011 6:18:43 pm PDT #14460 of 28293
Because books.

I don't think so? I don't remember it, if so.


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2011 6:20:05 pm PDT #14461 of 28293
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Fiction seems to treat memory alteration as less horrific than I think it is. It's scary and violating! I mean, even if it's being done ostensibly for your own good, it's a terrifying display of force and control.


Cass - Apr 15, 2011 6:21:26 pm PDT #14462 of 28293
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I thought she realized what a horrible thing it was but, really, that could be me recalling my own judginess at it. I mean, it was horrible violation or likely death. It's the better choice but it's still creepy.


Atropa - Apr 15, 2011 6:26:57 pm PDT #14463 of 28293
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I mean, it was horrible violation or likely death. It's the better choice but it's still creepy.

Very creepy, and I teared up at that point in the book.


§ ita § - Apr 15, 2011 6:27:42 pm PDT #14464 of 28293
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But was that you, or was that the text? Did the movie acknowledge the moment (are the movies up to that point--I haven't seen the last one)?


Amy - Apr 15, 2011 6:28:32 pm PDT #14465 of 28293
Because books.

Which book was it?

In terms of rereads, the whole HP series is one I *do* plan to reread at some point. I tore through the last three books so quickly, for one. I also simply loved them, but they're so dense with that kind of detail, there's a lot of stuff I've forgotten already.


Dana - Apr 15, 2011 6:32:56 pm PDT #14466 of 28293
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

It's book 7. In the movie, it's moved to the beginning, but I think it's not revealed until pretty close to the end of the book.

I think it's awesomely tragic.


Cass - Apr 15, 2011 6:44:05 pm PDT #14467 of 28293
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Did the movie acknowledge the moment (are the movies up to that point--I haven't seen the last one)?

Haven't seen them.

I know she gets upset in the book because someone either doesn't realize or appreciate the pain / sacrifice / this was a bad thing but I had to do it-ness of her actions. But I don't honestly recall if she thought it was as much of a bad thing as I did.


DavidS - Apr 15, 2011 6:46:51 pm PDT #14468 of 28293
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

In the movie, it's moved to the beginning, but I think it's not revealed until pretty close to the end of the book.

Actually, I think they emphasized it more in the movie. They show it, whereas in the book they only allude to it.

It is treated as a sacrifice by Hermione, who will go unremembered if she dies fighting Voldemort. But it was portrayed as necessary to protect her parents since Voldemort very clearly targeted family members, civilians and Muggles. So her parents would've been captured and tortured very quickly without her efforts.