Angel: Yeah, I never told anyone about this, but I-I liked your poems. Spike: You like Barry Manilow.

'Hell Bound'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Cass - Apr 15, 2011 6:44:05 pm PDT #14467 of 28293
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Did the movie acknowledge the moment (are the movies up to that point--I haven't seen the last one)?

Haven't seen them.

I know she gets upset in the book because someone either doesn't realize or appreciate the pain / sacrifice / this was a bad thing but I had to do it-ness of her actions. But I don't honestly recall if she thought it was as much of a bad thing as I did.


DavidS - Apr 15, 2011 6:46:51 pm PDT #14468 of 28293
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

In the movie, it's moved to the beginning, but I think it's not revealed until pretty close to the end of the book.

Actually, I think they emphasized it more in the movie. They show it, whereas in the book they only allude to it.

It is treated as a sacrifice by Hermione, who will go unremembered if she dies fighting Voldemort. But it was portrayed as necessary to protect her parents since Voldemort very clearly targeted family members, civilians and Muggles. So her parents would've been captured and tortured very quickly without her efforts.


DavidS - Apr 15, 2011 6:48:41 pm PDT #14469 of 28293
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

In the book, Voldemort's war against family members and Muggles is more evident. Things like Hannah Abbot's mother being killed, and lots of Muggle murder occur. (Neville winds up marrying Hannah Abbott, as they have the loss of parents in common, I guess.)

Once Voldemort takes over the Ministry he can kill with impunity.


Atropa - Apr 15, 2011 6:48:54 pm PDT #14470 of 28293
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Actually, I think they emphasized it more in the movie. They show it, whereas in the book they only allude to it.

Yeah, the scene of her altering the family photos in the movie is heartbreaking.


Dana - Apr 15, 2011 6:58:57 pm PDT #14471 of 28293
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

I was mostly sure that the scene I remembered where she takes the spell off her parents was from fanfic.


Kat - Apr 15, 2011 6:59:54 pm PDT #14472 of 28293
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

For a random change of topic... There is an amazing new website about the King James' Bible that is a collaboration between the Folger, the Bodelian and another research center that escapes my memory.

It's sort of a time suck, but interesting too. My knowledge, prior to grad school, of the battle of church reformation in England was pretty limited, but the bible translations were a big piece of it.

You can find it here: [link]

My favorite fact so far is that there were roughly 4 dozen translators who worked on the Bible. That surprised me.


erin_obscure - Apr 15, 2011 9:07:49 pm PDT #14473 of 28293
Occasionally I’m callous and strange

I just (as in, about an hour ago) finished re-reading _Deathly Hallows_ as i had read it so quickly the first time it was almost skimming. (seriously, i remembered Snape's love, and Narcissa's love, and all the horcruxes, and seemingly everyone dying but other than that...)

The thing that is sticking with me right now? How did Neville get the sword of Gryffindor for the final battle? He clearly didn't have it until the very, very end and there's zero explanation as to how/why Griphook would have ever EVER relinquished a goblin treasure. Sure it was helpful, but Ron and Hermione also had armfuls o basilisk fangs which would have been just as effective.

The book is not judgy on Hermione wiping her parents' memories. She is upset about having to do it to protect them, but there is no judging from any other characters, who seem to perceive her misery over having done it as her being slightly melodramatic. The movie treats it very touchingly, and there is evident grief in her actions.

How do we know that Neville married Hannah Abbot? The spilogue mentions him as a Professor of Herbology but not his personal life. I kinda assumed he and Luna ended up together, because that would just be so pat.

edited to correct improper use of an apostrophe. cuz that'd be catastrophic. (in my mind, that was a word play on "apostrophe" but it doesn't scan in print.)


Laga - Apr 16, 2011 6:17:36 am PDT #14474 of 28293
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

How did Neville get the sword of Gryffindor for the final battle?

From the sorting hat.

I'm not sure about Neville/Hannah


DavidS - Apr 16, 2011 6:55:00 am PDT #14475 of 28293
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

From the sorting hat.

Voldemort puts the sorting hat on Neville and lights it on fire. But Voldemort's spell freezing Neville isn't strong (and the sword drops rather painfully on top of Neville's noggin). Then Neville takes the sword and does Heroic Things.


DavidS - Apr 16, 2011 6:56:21 am PDT #14476 of 28293
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

How do we know that Neville married Hannah Abbot?

Post-textual interview with JKR. She noted that Neville find Luna a little scary. She winds up marrying somebody who wasn't in the books - another fan of exotic creatures.