Zoe: She shot you. Mal: Well, yeah, she did a bit... still --

'Serenity'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Sophia Brooks - Apr 14, 2011 4:06:28 pm PDT #14395 of 28293
Cats to become a rabbit should gather immediately now here

Would The Color Purple work?


Jesse - Apr 14, 2011 4:13:32 pm PDT #14396 of 28293
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I just read Snow Flower and the Secret Fan, Pix!

Did y'all see it's going to be a movie?


Ginger - Apr 14, 2011 4:48:57 pm PDT #14397 of 28293
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

It's sad how few adult novels I can think of that have women who go through aspects of the hero journey and are alive at the end. The Song of the Lark, maybe?


Kat - Apr 14, 2011 6:33:54 pm PDT #14398 of 28293
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Pix, lots of the YA will not be what preps them for the texts you are talking about. What about popular contemporary fiction?

How about something like The Secret Life of Bees? It has been read by higher level Nines at my school to surprising popularity, and, though it doesn't have a perfect fit for Campbell's archetype, it has lots of it.


Strix - Apr 14, 2011 7:00:05 pm PDT #14399 of 28293
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Leah in the Poisonwood Bible? The protag in Speak, hmm, maybe?

What about Katsa, from Cashore's Graceling? Or some of Tamora Pierce's heroines?

What about the protag (blanking -- time to go to bed) from Octavia Butler's Parable of the Sower?

Sherri Tepper's Beauty?


Consuela - Apr 14, 2011 7:29:24 pm PDT #14400 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Speaking of Sherri Tepper, I don't think I can read her anymore (although to be fair, I wasn't anyway): [link]


Dana - Apr 14, 2011 7:33:46 pm PDT #14401 of 28293
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yeah, she crazy.


javachik - Apr 14, 2011 7:43:14 pm PDT #14402 of 28293
Our wings are not tired.

Why, Connie? I just read the interiew. I've never read her books but what about her interview would stop you?


Consuela - Apr 14, 2011 8:01:41 pm PDT #14403 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Lemme see, there's this:

There is absolutely no difference between a writer doing a book about torture and pain for the delectation of perverts and a Roman emperor ordering a few dozen or hundred slaves into the arena to be tortured and killed by gladiators or beasts for the delectation of perverts, which, at that time, most of the population were because they had been taught to be.

Which indicates to me an inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality. I may have opinions about the fetishization of pain or incest, but I certainly know there is a difference between representation and reality.

The real killer bit is the three numbered paragraphs at the end, where she basically says that people who suffer from mental illness are equivalent to pedophiles and murderers, are not human (but many animals are), and should be sent into the wilderness to starve and die.

That's not a world-view I have any interest in sharing. Even people who hurt people are, in fact, people, and have rights--and the possibility for redemption.

And I loved Grass. Loved it. But I had to stop reading her a number of years ago when the sledgehammer got heavier and heavier and all the subtlety went away.

Which is not to say that I'm calling for a boycott or anything: it's just my instinctive response to that kind of toxic black-and-white attitude. The world is more complicated than that, and people who you are in opposition with are not by virtue of that necessarily evil.


Atropa - Apr 14, 2011 8:06:16 pm PDT #14404 of 28293
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

And in some ways, I think, it distills a lot of Pratchett's morality, but not in a heavy handed way. It's just that Tiffany's path leads her to find these True Things.

Tiffany is, hands down, my favorite Pratchett character of all time.