Oh, yeah, baby, it's snakalicious in here.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Consuela - Apr 14, 2011 8:01:41 pm PDT #14403 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Lemme see, there's this:

There is absolutely no difference between a writer doing a book about torture and pain for the delectation of perverts and a Roman emperor ordering a few dozen or hundred slaves into the arena to be tortured and killed by gladiators or beasts for the delectation of perverts, which, at that time, most of the population were because they had been taught to be.

Which indicates to me an inability to distinguish between fantasy and reality. I may have opinions about the fetishization of pain or incest, but I certainly know there is a difference between representation and reality.

The real killer bit is the three numbered paragraphs at the end, where she basically says that people who suffer from mental illness are equivalent to pedophiles and murderers, are not human (but many animals are), and should be sent into the wilderness to starve and die.

That's not a world-view I have any interest in sharing. Even people who hurt people are, in fact, people, and have rights--and the possibility for redemption.

And I loved Grass. Loved it. But I had to stop reading her a number of years ago when the sledgehammer got heavier and heavier and all the subtlety went away.

Which is not to say that I'm calling for a boycott or anything: it's just my instinctive response to that kind of toxic black-and-white attitude. The world is more complicated than that, and people who you are in opposition with are not by virtue of that necessarily evil.


Atropa - Apr 14, 2011 8:06:16 pm PDT #14404 of 28293
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

And in some ways, I think, it distills a lot of Pratchett's morality, but not in a heavy handed way. It's just that Tiffany's path leads her to find these True Things.

Tiffany is, hands down, my favorite Pratchett character of all time.


DavidS - Apr 14, 2011 8:07:22 pm PDT #14405 of 28293
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Have you heard Stephen Briggs' audiobook, Jilli? I think you would find it a comfort.


javachik - Apr 14, 2011 8:07:57 pm PDT #14406 of 28293
Our wings are not tired.

Thanks, Connie. Makes sense.

ETA: holy hell! I guess I read the first line of the numbered paragraphs at the end and super skimmed. I just went back and reread; it's by far the most damning piece of the interview. I guess it's safe to say that she's crazy enough to be placed behind the walls in the crazy prison she imagines.


Liese S. - Apr 14, 2011 8:12:54 pm PDT #14407 of 28293
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Tiffany is, hands down, my favorite Pratchett character of all time.

Yeah, absolutely. There's a reason I've been borrowing all the Discworld series ebooks, but buying the Tiffany Aching ones.

Well, her and Vimes. I love me some Vimes.


Pix - Apr 14, 2011 8:14:12 pm PDT #14408 of 28293
The status is NOT quo.

Thank you for all of the suggestions, everyone! I'm looking into several possibilities now.

(Side note: Kat, I used to teach TSLOB as a summer reading for this age level, and they did enjoy it--I'm looking for something more epic/high fantasy in nature at the moment, but I may return to it.)


Consuela - Apr 14, 2011 8:18:10 pm PDT #14409 of 28293
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

it's by far the most damning piece of the interview.

Yeah; I have a hard time imagining why anyone would say anything like that for publication. Seriously? Seriously? (Picture Hardison there, looking baffled.)

Tiffany is, hands down, my favorite Pratchett character of all time.

Tiffany is, to my mind, Pratchett's most fully-fleshed female character. She satisfies my feminism in ways that none of his other women do (even the ones in Monstrous Regiment, which annoyed me for reasons I cannot recall at the moment).


Typo Boy - Apr 14, 2011 8:24:39 pm PDT #14410 of 28293
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

Deborah Grabien had an encounter with Tepper years ago where Tepper told Grabien she was a betrayer of everything feminist for wearing makeup and (I think) high heels. Someone who wanted to search B.org deeply enough could find the exact quote.


Atropa - Apr 14, 2011 8:27:47 pm PDT #14411 of 28293
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Have you heard Stephen Briggs' audiobook, Jilli? I think you would find it a comfort.

I haven't! I do need to get those audiobooks, as being read to is one of the most comforting things in the world for me.


Connie Neil - Apr 14, 2011 8:27:58 pm PDT #14412 of 28293
brillig

even the ones in Monstrous Regiment, which annoyed me for reasons I cannot recall at the moment

I didn't like that one either, and I'm not sure why. I think it tried too hard. Vimes being all ducal and surly was nice. He does good walk-ons.