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Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Consuela - Apr 04, 2011 1:58:02 pm PDT #14294 of 28290
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I was mostly struck by how much of a selfish manipulating a**hole Rochester was.

Well, yeah. He was within minutes of committing bigamy before Jane learned the truth about his wife. Not exactly a fine, upstanding human being.


meara - Apr 04, 2011 2:03:56 pm PDT #14295 of 28290

Yeah--not sure how close the movie was to the book, but he came across as very manipulating of a naive young girl. Rather than touched by the ending, I was rooting for her to take the damn inheritance and have some fun and meet other people who were less emotionally abusive than him!!


Amy - Apr 04, 2011 2:04:04 pm PDT #14296 of 28290
Because books.

I don't know -- I thought part of the point was how St. John was this upstanding missionary do-gooder, but really, as Maysa said, a joyless prig.

And while Rochester was, in fact, ready to commit bigamy, he was also trying to make everyone happy, within certain parameters. He wouldn't commit Bertha to an asylum, which I give him points for, and he knew Jane wouldn't live in "sin," as it were. Rochester was deeply flawed, but he was also kind and generous in his own way. Adele is an example, too. Many other men would have had nothing to do with her, or at least not had her in their home.


Barb - Apr 04, 2011 2:20:12 pm PDT #14297 of 28290
“Not dead yet!”

It was interesting-- I just read a novel that was a retelling of Jane Eyre set in 1929 Hollywood against the backdrop of films transitioning from silents to talkies. The trick here was that Jane was transformed to the male character and Mr. Rochester was female.

I had actually looked forward to the gender switch, especially given the setting, but unfortunately, this book played it poorly.


sarameg - Apr 04, 2011 2:58:03 pm PDT #14298 of 28290

I probably haven't re-read it since my early 20s, but I read JE obsessively throughout my teens. St. John just...uhg. Got so tired of him that I'd often skip those parts.

Thinking about it now, Rochester's jerkiness showcased how Jane could stand up for herself. Which, honestly, I think was a big draw for me, her challenging this formidable grump.

I've always had a thing (chicken, egg?) for uh, challenging people. Not precisely healthy, but I'm well wary of it.

My poor copy is so tattered and worn, it is amazing it still is in one piece.


Amy - Apr 04, 2011 3:14:50 pm PDT #14299 of 28290
Because books.

I fell in love with child Jane, and never fell out. Standing up to Aunt Reed, and to Brocklehurst? I wanted to cheer while hugging her and giving her tea.

I just picked up Lord John and the Private Matter, by Diana Gabaldon, and I realize I've lost a lot of the details about his appearances in the Outlander books (except for the main one). Has anyone else read them? Is that going to matter?


Aims - Apr 04, 2011 4:24:19 pm PDT #14300 of 28290
Shit's all sorts of different now.

We interrupt your programming for this important message...

HOLP! Does anyone have a copy of or know really well The Hundred Penny Box by Sharon Bell Mathis? I want to do a write up on it for one of my classes, but can't find my copy and I need to confirm that it is a chapter book.


DebetEsse - Apr 04, 2011 4:37:06 pm PDT #14301 of 28290
Woe to the fucking wicked.

It does not appear to be divided into chapters, based on what I'm seeing online.


Aims - Apr 04, 2011 4:43:22 pm PDT #14302 of 28290
Shit's all sorts of different now.

That's what I got, too. Dangit. Should have used it for realistic fiction. I'll do Bud, Not Buddy instead.


sumi - Apr 05, 2011 7:47:53 am PDT #14303 of 28290
Art Crawl!!!

Steven Brust short story - on the Tor website.