Simon: Captain... why did you come back for us? Mal: You're on my crew. Simon: Yeah, but you don't even like me. Why'd you come back? Mal: You're on my crew. Why we still talking about this?

'Safe'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


DavidS - Aug 19, 2010 6:24:54 pm PDT #12050 of 28342
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I think you're generalizing. I know (not personally) PhD candidates and professors who read and write romance. Just because your study or work is Chaucer or whatever doesn't mean you might not like some Nora Roberts (or P.D. James) in your downtime.

Right, but that's not the culture. Certainly there are academics who read popular fiction, but that's a matter of personal taste distinct from their vocation. There's nothing in the process of getting a Ph.D. in English which is conducive to picking up a mystery. To the contrary. Being widely read in serious literature is more likely to be an impediment to reading mysteries than enabling it, I think.


Amy - Aug 19, 2010 6:32:35 pm PDT #12051 of 28342
Because books.

Just to reiterate, I was responding to what Raq said about her step-sister:

My step-sister, who has a PhD in English, just said that The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo is the first mystery she's ever read.

As I'm sure she hasn't spent her whole life as a PhD candidate, that surprised me, since I assume with a doctorate in English she *is* a big reader, and has been for a while. I wasn't specifically talking about what she read while working on her PhD.

I'm not a big fantasy or science fiction reader, but as someone who loves to read, I *have* read one or two over the years. Same way Jess said she doesn't really like or remember mysteries, but she *has* read one or two.

Maybe that's clearer.


DavidS - Aug 19, 2010 6:37:25 pm PDT #12052 of 28342
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I guess I just don't see Ph.D.'s in English as being that catholic in their tastes or wide ranging in their interests. It's a narrow kind of reading and the people that do get Ph.D.'s don't so much read for fun, and are primarily interested in literary history and theory.

Ph.D. = narrow but deep (to me).


meara - Aug 19, 2010 6:39:29 pm PDT #12053 of 28342

...do thrillers count as mysteries? I read a lot of trashy thrillers. There is usually a mystery of who the crazy serial killer is...

Nevada Barr is mysteries, right? I've read her.

But stereotypical mysteries are not my thing. Though I did read a lot of Trixie Belden growing up! :)


megan walker - Aug 19, 2010 6:41:38 pm PDT #12054 of 28342
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

See, I wouldn't assume they are a big reader, as weird as that sounds. When I wanted fluff reading in school I turned to Regency romances. Most people there didn't get that at all. Not just the romance thing, but that I'd want to read for fun. I wish I were kidding. I had lot of conversations about "books," but not about reading.


Amy - Aug 19, 2010 6:41:42 pm PDT #12055 of 28342
Because books.

It's a narrow kind of reading and the people that do get Ph.D.'s don't so much read for fun, and are primarily interested in literary history and theory.

And I feel like you're still missing my point. As KIDS, that's what PhDs are like?


Ginger - Aug 19, 2010 6:44:30 pm PDT #12056 of 28342
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

As an English grad student, I read mysteries to get the taste of Henry James out my head.


-t - Aug 19, 2010 6:45:48 pm PDT #12057 of 28342
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

do thrillers count as mysteries?

They are distinct but related in my head. I'd shelve them together for marketing purposes, I think.

Nevada Barr is definitely mysteries.

That can't be grammatically correct, but I'm leaving it.


megan walker - Aug 19, 2010 6:46:04 pm PDT #12058 of 28342
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Speaking of grad school, I guess I wasn't alone in my crushing debt: [link]

NYU's student debt alone is bigger than the gross domestic product of 12 countries.


Kat - Aug 19, 2010 6:49:08 pm PDT #12059 of 28342
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

As KIDS, that's what PhDs are like?

I t heart Amy. I get it. Like, how could you have been a kid and never read at least one Encyclopedia Brown book. I am not a big mystery reader and even I read Encyclopedia Brown!

Maybe she is out-genreing kid's lit as not broken down into further sub-genres?