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ChiKat - Apr 17, 2006 5:30:25 pm PDT #9758 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Cass, I am so sorry you're having to go through this and I'm sorry your niecelet is having to go through this. Your brother is losing his daughter (if he hasn't already) for the rest of his life. I don't feel sorry for him.

And, if these things make you evil then all of humanity is evil for some reason or another.

Laura - Apr 17, 2006 5:30:35 pm PDT #9759 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

But more damning? I dated a woman.

Well piffle, I bet he has too.

Lee - Apr 17, 2006 5:35:30 pm PDT #9760 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

What everyone else said, Cass. I'm sorry you and the niecelet are going through this.

Cass - Apr 17, 2006 5:39:15 pm PDT #9761 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Your brother is losing his daughter (if he hasn't already) for the rest of his life. I don't feel sorry for him.
I don't either. But I feel sorry for her. He said some amazingly ugly things to her.

Well piffle, I bet he has too.
Ones that weren't even his wife.

I am richocheting emotions. This moment is fury. And hate. I'm guessing the tears will be back in a minute or two.

Yep. Back to tears. I hope numb comes along soon. I'd like numb.

WindSparrow - Apr 17, 2006 5:51:57 pm PDT #9762 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Cass, this is so sad. In your shoes, I would look for a way to communicate to the niecelet that no matter what happens over the intervening time, "I love you no matter what, and the day you turn 18, you have a place on my couch." Send a telegram or something with a signature-required postal-return card to it.

Trudy Booth - Apr 17, 2006 5:58:50 pm PDT #9763 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Darling darling Cass.

I am so sorry. This is heartbreaking.

Your brother is being bananas and even HE knows it. He is utterly spinning out of control.

Laura - Apr 17, 2006 6:10:22 pm PDT #9764 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

One last thought before I go to sleep. Would it be possible to write a note to the niecelet with an outside return address of an "approved" person? Nothing outragious and trouble making for her if caught, but just reassuring that you are always there for her. Or if all her stuff is opened perhaps just postcards of something silly that will mean nothing to the overlords, but will make her smile.

Much endurance~ma to both of you for the time it takes for either someone to come to their senses or for the big 18 to finally arrive.

Cass - Apr 17, 2006 6:20:21 pm PDT #9765 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I would look for a way to communicate to the niecelet that no matter what happens over the intervening time, "I love you no matter what, and the day you turn 18, you have a place on my couch." Send a telegram or something with a signature-required postal-return card to it.
I was thinking of doing something signature required. I don't know if the school will let it in. Having the postal return would let me know if it worked though. Thank you, Andi. (Do you mind being called Andi on the board or would you prefer boardnames on the board? I just realized I don't know.)

I am so sorry. This is heartbreaking.
It is. And, the only thing I will say in his defense at all, is that he is her parent and she's still a minor so he can make the rules. Not that I should have lied to her. I just do realize that, if the rest of this weren't so absolutely horrible...

How is it that I can possibly feel worse than I did yesterday after talking with the neicelet and realizing how bad things really were?

Would it be possible to write a note to the niecelet with an outside return address of an "approved" person? Nothing outragious and trouble making for her if caught, but just reassuring that you are always there for her.
Excellent idea. I could use my sister's maybe... Just sign it RealName since they are the same. I just feel like I have to at least find a way to let her know that if she's not hearing from me, it's not my choice and I love and miss her. And I can find unincriminating ways to do that.

Trudy Booth - Apr 17, 2006 6:22:48 pm PDT #9766 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Worst Case Scenario: Your folks will deliver a message for you that you are waiting patiently for her to turn eighteen and you love her with all your heart and you will do anything and are making Xs on a calendar with a big red marker.

Cass - Apr 17, 2006 6:29:57 pm PDT #9767 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Your folks will deliver a message for you
They are going to side on parental rights on this one unless I do the Telling Big Secrets* thing. And if I do that, they'll be so furious in every direction that it won't matter.

But stepmom is visiting her in a month. Maybe I can convince her by then to take a postcard or unsealed envelope.

  • And I am not being all noble and shit by shutting up and not causing a nuclear meltdown. If it would only hurt my brother and sister in law, I would do it in a heartbeat. It's ugly in and of itself to say that but it is only the collateral damage that is keeping me from calling or writing tonight.

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