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Jessica - Mar 01, 2006 8:14:51 am PST #1822 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I can't even find the words to describe this -- instructions on setting up an illegal abortion clinic in cases where hiring a doctor is impossible (just in case South Dakota needs it). The comments are equally powerful.

I can't make up my mind how I feel about it. I feel very strongly about abortion rights (especially since the South Dakota law makes to exceptions for pregnancies resulting from rape), but abortion is still surgery. Surgery should be done by doctors. The thought of someone performing an abortion based on a procedure they read in a blog is frankly terrifying. I suppose it's better than performing an abortion with no guidelines at all, but there is no way for anyone who hasn't been to medical school to know how safe or accurate the information she's presenting is. -- she admits right off the bat that she's just repeating shit she's read. I just don't know. I hope that it's good medical information, and I hope nobody ever has to use it.


beth b - Mar 01, 2006 8:18:50 am PST #1823 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

It is how they used to be performed. Which is why so many women died from botched abortions. Which is probbably the srongest reason for makeing abortion legal and available. they will happen anyway. they have exsisted for a long time. they will continue.


SuziQ - Mar 01, 2006 8:22:32 am PST #1824 of 10001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Nicole - writing a letter regarding the tickets is most likely to be responded to with a "well ok" than a "no". That is how I've had my last two non-delinquent parking tickets dismissed.


beth b - Mar 01, 2006 8:23:44 am PST #1825 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

and in news of my health... ( I know you were waiting for this)

I will be going to work today. However, after being at the coffee shop for a few hours , I decicded that the grocery store gets to wait.


SuziQ - Mar 01, 2006 8:25:00 am PST #1826 of 10001
Back tattoos of the mother is that you are absolutely right - Ame

Ok, cow-worker two cubes over has been on the phone for an hour. Non-business. I know too much about her life. I'm so glad the toilet flushes. SHUT UP!!!!

*deep breath*

So, how be everyone?


Toddson - Mar 01, 2006 8:27:29 am PST #1827 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"

Going back a bit - Abortions have always been carried out. When they were illegal it was by amateurs, some with good intentions, some just out for money. It was dangerous - even if not fatal, women often ended up with infections that could have long-term effects. When abortions became legal, it was possible to go to a doctor and get professional care.


sj - Mar 01, 2006 8:29:22 am PST #1828 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

MG, let us know if you need an alibi.


Jessica - Mar 01, 2006 8:32:21 am PST #1829 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It is how they used to be performed. Which is why so many women died from botched abortions.

I know.

My worry is that this kind of information -- guides to "safe" illegal abortions, performed by laymen -- will end up causing more harm than it prevents. I understand why it feels necessary to get this information out there, I just hope to god the original author knew what she was talking about. Performing surgery based on a guide you read online...scary, scary stuff.


beth b - Mar 01, 2006 8:32:42 am PST #1830 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

and for a long time - ending pregnancies before the quicking was an accepted practice. It was around the civil war/industrialization/ suffregette movement that abortion became unlawful. ( I'd have to go find my books for a more exact time)


EpicTangent - Mar 01, 2006 8:33:41 am PST #1831 of 10001
Why isn't everyone pelting me with JOY, dammit? - Zenkitty

I work in a law library, Epic, that is open to the public. All the delusional people come to us with questions.

Fun! In a roll your eyes forever kinda way.

Seeing as it is tax time, we've had a run of people trying to figure out how to make themselves over into churches, and the seasonal tax protesters.

Y'know, you don't really have to pay taxes. It's illegal and they can't make you. I read it on that there internet, so it's gotta be true.

Geez, MG, in at 5am and subjected to that? I wish I could teleport you chocolate-chip cookies. You've clearly earned them.