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Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

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Nutty - Apr 24, 2005 4:08:57 pm PDT #9859 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

It isn't at all unusual for 12-year-olds to menstruate.

Nutrition being what it is these days, 10 is not altogether unusual any more. Secondary sex characteristics do not indicate the ability to make adult decisions, which is why the age of consent is closer to the age of voting than to the average age of menarche.

One could say that the presence of secondary sex characteristics takes attraction to the person in question out of the realm of obvious pedophilia. Which is not a condemnation, but taken as a general rule, not a ringing endorsement either.


Betsy HP - Apr 24, 2005 4:13:03 pm PDT #9860 of 10000
If I only had a brain...

There's a different technical term, 'hebephilia', for people who prefer adolescents. The ancient Greeks were technically hebephiles, not pedophiles.


Emily - Apr 24, 2005 4:21:57 pm PDT #9861 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

Secondary sex characteristics do not indicate the ability to make adult decisions,

Nor does old age, of course. I had a cogent followup talking about the connection of legality of act to legality of depiction, but I got distracted by that Mentos commercial with the birds.


Emily - Apr 24, 2005 4:23:21 pm PDT #9862 of 10000
"In the equation E = mc⬧, c⬧ is a pretty big honking number." - Scola

'hebephilia'

How do you pronounce that, Betsy? Not that it's likely to come up, just that I read aloud in my head. If that isn't contradictory.


Dana - Apr 24, 2005 4:34:06 pm PDT #9863 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

I believe both e's are pronounced long. Heeeebeeeephilia.

Now Betsy will come along and prove that I'm a dork.


Betsy HP - Apr 24, 2005 4:39:13 pm PDT #9864 of 10000
If I only had a brain...

Nah. That's the way I pronounce it, too. Unfortunately, it isn't in the Shorter Oxford or the American Heritage, so maybe I made it up. Which would suck. Neither of them has 'ephebephilia' either.


SailAweigh - Apr 24, 2005 5:07:47 pm PDT #9865 of 10000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

The American Heritage has hebephrenia: a schizophrenia characterized by foolish mannerisms, delusions, hallucinations and regressive behavior. It also goes on to break the word down as 'hebe' being the Greek for youth, youthful. I'm willing to go with Betsy's definition for hebephilia. It must just be too arcane medically for the more traditional dictionaries.


Vonnie K - Apr 24, 2005 5:12:30 pm PDT #9866 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.

I suspect "Hebe" in hebephilia probably refers to the Greek goddess of youth, who served as a cupbearer to the gods. She's a daughter of Zeus and Hera, IIRC. M-W pronounces "Hebe" as heeebeee as Dana said.


ms_prague - Apr 24, 2005 6:34:38 pm PDT #9867 of 10000
How many times do I have to tell you? You don't put a bra in a dryer! It warps!

Does it really? I had no idea. I assumed it was imported from anime/manga.

I believe anime/manga fandom would be more likely to use the terms shotacon and lolicon.


Nutty - Apr 25, 2005 4:53:55 am PDT #9868 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

By the bye, there's a short article in the Boston Globe today about yaoi -- the standard OMG! Look what those people do! article. Neither particularly obnoxious nor laudatory. I gather there was a local anime con recently.

hebephrenia

For the record, this word isn't in common use any more. A bunch of head-shrinkers got together and changed the way we describe schizophrenia, so it's not quite so "Well you're just immature, you crazy person" any more.