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Nutty - Apr 25, 2005 4:53:55 am PDT #9868 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

By the bye, there's a short article in the Boston Globe today about yaoi -- the standard OMG! Look what those people do! article. Neither particularly obnoxious nor laudatory. I gather there was a local anime con recently.

hebephrenia

For the record, this word isn't in common use any more. A bunch of head-shrinkers got together and changed the way we describe schizophrenia, so it's not quite so "Well you're just immature, you crazy person" any more.

Calli - Apr 25, 2005 5:03:09 am PDT #9869 of 10000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Would a lot of earlier Smallville Clark/Lex fic be considered chan? I mean, yeah, Tom Welling was and looked 25 (a very pretty 25, but 25) and all, but he was playing a 15 year old character who was, in a whole lot of fic, getting busy with a 21+ year old Lex Luthor.

Dana - Apr 25, 2005 5:51:31 am PDT #9870 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

but he was playing a 15 year old character who was, in a whole lot of fic, getting busy with a 21+ year old Lex Luthor.

When Smallville fandom hit big, which was about twenty minutes before the first episode aired, there were a lot of people doing one of three things:

a) Frantically justifying ("Well, he's an alien! He's not really fifteen! Does he look fifteen to you?")
b) Disclaiming the hell out of their fic
c) Plowing right the hell on with the porn (I like to call this the Te approach.)

Calli - Apr 25, 2005 6:02:20 am PDT #9871 of 10000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Most underage/adult relationships squick the hell out of me, but I never had a problem with the SV stuff. (Te's website is linked to the definition of "FicGoddess" in my mental wikipedia.) Which is why I wondered about the whole chan definition thing.

Dana - Apr 25, 2005 6:07:13 am PDT #9872 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

My personal experience is that the majority of fandom taboos fall like dominos for the majority of people when they get in the way of enjoying fic. Aside from Smallville, there's the whole RPS thing, which hit around the same time.

Katie M - Apr 25, 2005 6:31:51 am PDT #9873 of 10000
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Also, it depends on your description of chan. I was never into SV, but I didn't get the impression that there was a whole lot of porn that centered around the idea of Clark being a lot younger than Lex, woo hoo nubile hairless boy-body. You know?

Calli - Apr 25, 2005 6:48:37 am PDT #9874 of 10000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

There was a fair bit of fic centered around Lex feeling guilty about lusting after a 15-16 year old. But I don't remember a lot of "man-on-boy!yay". I may just not have seen those stories. And I'm kinda glad.

Dana - Apr 25, 2005 6:50:09 am PDT #9875 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."

There was a fair bit of fic centered around Lex feeling guilty about lusting after a 15-16 year old.

But it generally didn't stop him from fucking Clark over the pool table. Right? I mean, that's what I remember, but I may just be fondly remembering the early glow of that fandom.

Calli - Apr 25, 2005 6:53:37 am PDT #9876 of 10000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

But it generally didn't stop him from fucking Clark over the pool table. Right?

Depended on the story. Some had him waiting until Clark had whatever the magic age of consent birthday was (16? 18? I seem to recall 16). Some had him getting seduced by Clark (the alien made me do it, officer!) and some had him swept away by desireTM.

amych - Apr 25, 2005 6:58:14 am PDT #9877 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Depended on the story. Some had him waiting until Clark had whatever the magic age of consent birthday was (16? 18? I seem to recall 16). Some had him getting seduced by Clark (the alien made me do it, officer!) and some had him swept away by desireTM.

All true (and I remember a lot of people doing frantic research to justify what they were gonna do anyway before saying "Oh, PHEW, the age of consent is 16...") But even in the stories that did worry about the underage thing, the vibe was definitely mature-for-an-adolescent/barely adult -- just brushing up on both sides of the line, rather than grownup/kid.

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