I believe both e's are pronounced long. Heeeebeeeephilia.
Now Betsy will come along and prove that I'm a dork.
I had a whole section about civic pride.
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Dana - Apr 24, 2005 4:34:06 pm PDT #9863 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
Betsy HP - Apr 24, 2005 4:39:13 pm PDT #9864 of 10000
If I only had a brain...
Nah. That's the way I pronounce it, too. Unfortunately, it isn't in the Shorter Oxford or the American Heritage, so maybe I made it up. Which would suck. Neither of them has 'ephebephilia' either.
SailAweigh - Apr 24, 2005 5:07:47 pm PDT #9865 of 10000
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb
The American Heritage has hebephrenia: a schizophrenia characterized by foolish mannerisms, delusions, hallucinations and regressive behavior. It also goes on to break the word down as 'hebe' being the Greek for youth, youthful. I'm willing to go with Betsy's definition for hebephilia. It must just be too arcane medically for the more traditional dictionaries.
Vonnie K - Apr 24, 2005 5:12:30 pm PDT #9866 of 10000
Kiss me, my girl, before I'm sick.
I suspect "Hebe" in hebephilia probably refers to the Greek goddess of youth, who served as a cupbearer to the gods. She's a daughter of Zeus and Hera, IIRC. M-W pronounces "Hebe" as heeebeee as Dana said.
ms_prague - Apr 24, 2005 6:34:38 pm PDT #9867 of 10000
How many times do I have to tell you? You don't put a bra in a dryer! It warps!
Does it really? I had no idea. I assumed it was imported from anime/manga.
I believe anime/manga fandom would be more likely to use the terms shotacon and lolicon.
Nutty - Apr 25, 2005 4:53:55 am PDT #9868 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."
By the bye, there's a short article in the Boston Globe today about yaoi -- the standard OMG! Look what those people do! article. Neither particularly obnoxious nor laudatory. I gather there was a local anime con recently.
hebephrenia
For the record, this word isn't in common use any more. A bunch of head-shrinkers got together and changed the way we describe schizophrenia, so it's not quite so "Well you're just immature, you crazy person" any more.
Calli - Apr 25, 2005 5:03:09 am PDT #9869 of 10000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Would a lot of earlier Smallville Clark/Lex fic be considered chan? I mean, yeah, Tom Welling was and looked 25 (a very pretty 25, but 25) and all, but he was playing a 15 year old character who was, in a whole lot of fic, getting busy with a 21+ year old Lex Luthor.
Dana - Apr 25, 2005 5:51:31 am PDT #9870 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
but he was playing a 15 year old character who was, in a whole lot of fic, getting busy with a 21+ year old Lex Luthor.
When Smallville fandom hit big, which was about twenty minutes before the first episode aired, there were a lot of people doing one of three things:
a) Frantically justifying ("Well, he's an alien! He's not really fifteen! Does he look fifteen to you?")
b) Disclaiming the hell out of their fic
c) Plowing right the hell on with the porn (I like to call this the Te approach.)
Calli - Apr 25, 2005 6:02:20 am PDT #9871 of 10000
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs
Most underage/adult relationships squick the hell out of me, but I never had a problem with the SV stuff. (Te's website is linked to the definition of "FicGoddess" in my mental wikipedia.) Which is why I wondered about the whole chan definition thing.
Dana - Apr 25, 2005 6:07:13 am PDT #9872 of 10000
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
My personal experience is that the majority of fandom taboos fall like dominos for the majority of people when they get in the way of enjoying fic. Aside from Smallville, there's the whole RPS thing, which hit around the same time.