Zoe: Nobody's saying that, sir. Wash: Yeah, we're pretty much just giving each other significant glances and laughing incessantly.

'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Fay - Aug 18, 2004 9:23:31 am PDT #8880 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Forgive me for interrupting this interesting discussion, but Nutty's tagline broke me.

"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

This is even more of a mind boggler in UK English, which translates the above as Spock being on a male somebody's ladyparts. Are we talking Kirk sexchange Mpreg?

(I mean, I'm sure it's out there.)


erikaj - Aug 18, 2004 9:26:09 am PDT #8881 of 10000
Always Anti-fascist!

No, in America, your fanny is a cute way of talking about your butt.


Connie Neil - Aug 18, 2004 9:31:17 am PDT #8882 of 10000
brillig

And it's all English, which makes it so much funnier.


Fay - Aug 18, 2004 9:36:21 am PDT #8883 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

nods.

Yes indeed, fanny = butt - it's an ongoing source of entertainment. Just checking that it wasn't Kirk Sexchange Mpreg, 'cause you never can tell. ;)

So you read:

"Mister Spock is on his butt, sir. Reports heavy damage."

and I read

"Mister Spock is on his pussy, sir. Reports heavy damage."

And upon reflection, I'm still not sure which is funnier.


erikaj - Aug 18, 2004 9:36:48 am PDT #8884 of 10000
Always Anti-fascist!

Wrod.ETA: I remember reading where JM had a similar encounter with "fit" which to us= healthy and buff but as you know, for your lot=hot and sexy. So he was on UK TV and the host says " You're looking fit, James." And JM says "Yeah, well, I work out." and gets a HUGE laugh.


Connie Neil - Aug 18, 2004 9:40:44 am PDT #8885 of 10000
brillig

I've seen the butt variation.


Nutty - Aug 18, 2004 9:56:01 am PDT #8886 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

(FWIW, the quote is from a Bloom County cartoon, where a bunch of animals are riding with a paraplegic man on his wheelchair = Starship Enterprise, only they don't all fit, and Opus = Mister Spock falls off. Onto his butt. It is way, way funnier than I have just described it.)

(No, Opus does not have female parts.)


Connie Neil - Aug 18, 2004 10:00:50 am PDT #8887 of 10000
brillig

Bloom County rulez! Or it did.


Consuela - Aug 18, 2004 10:38:04 am PDT #8888 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I love Bloom County. This week's Opus was a nice reminder of Bloom County at its best. Many of them have been, I dunno, a bit too nasty of late.

I like Nutty's theory of specialized language for porn. It makes some kind of sense to me.

Speaking of fic, since that's where we are, Thea just posted a lovely little Buffy post-Not Fade Away snippet here.


Anne W. - Aug 18, 2004 1:14:13 pm PDT #8889 of 10000
The lost sheep grow teeth, forsake their lambs, and lie with the lions.

This is all very, very interesting. As for me, I've always broken down porn vs. erotica as follows:

Porn = characters aren't important, only bodies and lots of details about Tab A going into Slot B, etc. There's nothing in the story that shows why it's important why Character A is shagging Character B and/or C. In fact, it would be easy to swap in characters from another fandom with no one really noticing.

Erotica = Along with all the bits about, well, bits, it is important that it is those two (or three, or four) specific people going at it like bunnies. There should be some sort of emotional or intellectual freight, maybe some hint of consequences to be faced or obstacles that have been overcome, etc. and so forth. There doesn't necessarily have to be much of a plot, but there should be the sense that these are people screwing, not just bodies.

Does that make sense?