I tuned into BBC News in the car this morning just in time to hear them doing a segment on manga. Specifically, the part about yaoi. It was interesting, since I only really know the terms and next to nothing about actual manga and yaoi.
They spoke to a "yaoi" expert who said that in yaoi, the men are "not gay, but in love with each other" and that girls are generally interested in yaoi because "they're interested in sex, but also rejecting their own sexuality."
Yaoi sounds like less fun than slash, I gotta say.
Dana, all I can say is that your yaoi "expert" is about as on-target as most slash "experts" who end up talking to the media. It also sounds as if he (or she) has some issues.
Anyhow, yaoi essentially
is
slash. There's wonderfully done yaoi, and there is utter crap, just as there is in the slash world.
Basically, the only differences between yaoi and slash is that in yaoi:
- The order in which you list the pairing is important, as it indicates top/bottom. BTW, this seems to be less and less true as time goes by.
- A "x" is often used rather than a "/" to denote a pairing
- RPS is an obvious impossibility in the yaoi world.
- With yaoi, a good number of pairings are canon, not subtextual. This includes pairings from stuff aimed at young kids (Card Captor Sakura, Sailor Moon). Some mainstream manga actually show same-sex kissage (Fake, Sailor Moon).
- With yaoi, you can actually
buy,
with tacit blessing from the parent company, "doujinshi," which are fan-drawn and written manga. (The manga publishers tend to look at these as free publicity. Several writers and artists actually admit to collecting doujinshi based on their own series.) Some of these are of incredible quality, and there are some published artists/writers who got their start and got noticed by doing these.
- The yaoi equivalent of "femslash" is "yuri." Don't ask me why.
Dana, all I can say is that your yaoi "expert" is about as on-target as most slash "experts" who end up talking to the media. It also sounds as if he (or she) has some issues.
Yeah, I thought it sounded kind of weird. It was a she, by the way.
Yeah, I thought it sounded kind of weird.
Yep. Yaoi fans are little girls who like the gay because they're afraid of their own sexuality. Slash fans are no-life internet freaks who like the gay because they're afraid of their own sexuality. Same old, same old.
(Yeah. I always wondered, about such arguments, why anyone afraid of sexuality would get into, you know, the
gay.
There is the procedural and the "canon-compliant" characters stuck in the Triassic Period and the amazing adventure and the evil empire of giant cats, for people who can't handle sexuality. Okay, some of those involved sexuality, but you get my meaning.)
Nothing to get one's fur shorts in a twist about.
Is there any consensus on Connor being 'Steven' or 'Stephen' to Holtz?
Stephen feels like an older spelling to me, Elena.
Stephen feels like an older spelling to me, Elena
I'd probably go with it for that reason myself, but season three shooting scripts (I checked "A New World," "Benediction" and "Tomorrow") all use Steven.
I've been using Stephen - but I wasn't sure.
Huh. Scripts say it's "Steven".
Edit: And I knew that was going to be a x-post.
