Fred: Oh my God! Angel, you're…cute! Angel: Fred, don't! Fred: Oh, but the little hands! And the hair! Angel: Hey! You're fired.

'Smile Time'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Consuela - Feb 18, 2004 7:09:51 am PST #7354 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I admit, I tend to use fanwank as a way of correcting for The Handwave (i.e., fixing or explaining things that make no sense in the canon universe, like working out translator microbes or PK genetics). But the word "wank" isn't quite so genial in origin, so it sounds like there are two conflicting definitions for fanwank.

OTOH, you can generally tell which use is meant by context.

"Oh, go see the fanwanking over in Lotrips where the tinhats are all kerfuffling about someone showing Dom some manips!"

vs.

"Nutty came up with an elegant fanwank to explain why Aeryn came back as a pod person this season."


Nutty - Feb 18, 2004 7:35:37 am PST #7355 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I think the Buffista meaning of fanwank is a genial, logical outgrowth of the general meaning; it's just that words usually go downhill in connotation, rather than uphill.

"Nutty came up with an elegant fanwank to explain why Aeryn came back as a pod person this season."

I wish I had. Mostly, all I could come up with was, Christie Brinkley is the evil queen of the pod people! Eyebrow waxing for EVERYBODY!!


Consuela - Feb 18, 2004 7:38:16 am PST #7356 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Mostly, all I could come up with was, Christie Brinkley is the evil queen of the pod people! Eyebrow waxing for EVERYBODY!!

Oh, snerk.

t heavy sigh

God, I hope they let her have her old eyebrows back for the mini. I'll sacrifice a logical resolution of the jujubes issue (because none of their cliffhanger resolutions ever make a lot of sense anyway) in order to get a recognizable Aeryn.


Micole - Feb 18, 2004 8:06:13 am PST #7357 of 10000
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

one is to throw bones to the fans so they feel pleased with themselves, without actually contributing to the quality of the product (continuity nods that don't add to the story, but make you feel all cool for noticing)

I would correct to say "nods that don't add to the plot, or possibly even themes," rather than the story itself; I tend to think the continuity nods and other internal allusions add to the story by creating a sense of depth and history to the fictional world under construction.


erikaj - Feb 18, 2004 8:24:59 am PST #7358 of 10000
Always Anti-fascist!

Thanks for clearing that up...well, kinda.


§ ita § - Feb 18, 2004 8:33:04 am PST #7359 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I tend to think the continuity nods and other internal allusions add to the story by creating a sense of depth and history to the fictional world under construction.

My interpretation had been that a fanwank was one that didn't even do that -- otherwise it'd have a nicer name. Just something to make me feel all special in my obsessiveness.


Micole - Feb 18, 2004 9:00:01 am PST #7360 of 10000
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

But what's the difference between a continuity nod that adds depth and a continuity nod that's a shout-out besides the viewer's perception of it? Before I started reading the Buffistas, it never even occurred to me that continuity nods might be meant as a dialogue.

"ita moon" is a fanwank in the "nod to the fans" sense, but it's not a continuity detail. I just don't tend to think continuity is gratuitous.


erikaj - Feb 18, 2004 9:15:42 am PST #7361 of 10000
Always Anti-fascist!

Continuity, like sex, is never gratuitous. But I know what ita means. Like continuity is that Oz's band was still Dingoes. Little fannish details like Will taking the Dingoes poster to college? Fanwank. Cause I appreciated it, but I wouldn't have missed it, right?


Lyra Jane - Feb 18, 2004 9:20:33 am PST #7362 of 10000
Up with the sun

I've never heard fanwank used to mean small continuity details/shoutouts to the fans, but it could be I'm just not paying attention.


§ ita § - Feb 18, 2004 9:20:36 am PST #7363 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Little fannish details like Will taking the Dingoes poster to college?

No, that I think is a character note for Willow.

But sometimes (so of course my mind is blank) it's a "Aren't we clever! We remembered! You're clever too, because you noticed!" and that's what I'm thinking off.

Now I just have to think of an example.

I don't interpret shoutouts as wanks.