Right, there comes a point where you have to either move on, or just buy yourself a Klingon costume and go with it.

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Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


erikaj - Feb 18, 2004 9:15:42 am PST #7361 of 10000
Always Anti-fascist!

Continuity, like sex, is never gratuitous. But I know what ita means. Like continuity is that Oz's band was still Dingoes. Little fannish details like Will taking the Dingoes poster to college? Fanwank. Cause I appreciated it, but I wouldn't have missed it, right?


Lyra Jane - Feb 18, 2004 9:20:33 am PST #7362 of 10000
Up with the sun

I've never heard fanwank used to mean small continuity details/shoutouts to the fans, but it could be I'm just not paying attention.


§ ita § - Feb 18, 2004 9:20:36 am PST #7363 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Little fannish details like Will taking the Dingoes poster to college?

No, that I think is a character note for Willow.

But sometimes (so of course my mind is blank) it's a "Aren't we clever! We remembered! You're clever too, because you noticed!" and that's what I'm thinking off.

Now I just have to think of an example.

I don't interpret shoutouts as wanks.


Consuela - Feb 18, 2004 9:42:55 am PST #7364 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I don't interpret shoutouts as wanks.

Neither do I. "ita moon" is a shoutout but not a fanwank. It's performed by the producers, not the fans.

Fanwanks are by fans. Continuity nods are by producers. They may overlap in content, however.


§ ita § - Feb 18, 2004 10:54:16 am PST #7365 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Fanwanks are by fans.

So the other definition I mentioned above isn't one you've come across?


Consuela - Feb 18, 2004 12:16:54 pm PST #7366 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

one is to throw bones to the fans so they feel pleased with themselves, without actually contributing to the quality of the product

That one? I've never seen that called a fanwank. Something like a shoutout, or a nod to the fans, but not a fanwank.

Given the etymology of 'wank', I would think fanwank is something that fans do to themselves. That's also the usage I've seen, primarily. Either they do the handwavey explanation of a point of canon, or they work themselves into a tizzy in an interfan kerfuffle. Either way, it's produced by fans for fans.


§ ita § - Feb 18, 2004 12:19:51 pm PST #7367 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Maybe it's a locality thing.

Because when I google, the fanwank refs that match my less-used definition are Doctor Who fandom stuff.

Which was, I realise, my proto-fandom.

God, I'm old and geeky.


Consuela - Feb 18, 2004 12:38:11 pm PST #7368 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Well, you know, it could be that the Dr. Who PTB are much more... friendly with the fans, know what I mean, nudge nudge, wink wink. Cause they'll wank the fans for them...


§ ita § - Feb 18, 2004 1:04:39 pm PST #7369 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

it could be that the Dr. Who PTB are much more... friendly with the fans, know what I mean, nudge nudge, wink wink

Given that I met one of the Dr. Who PTB, yes.

Given that I was underage at the time, HELL NO.


amych - Feb 18, 2004 1:05:24 pm PST #7370 of 10000
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

suela just made me go to the bad place.