Kaylee: Is that him? Mal: That's the buffet table. Kaylee: Well how can we be sure, unless we question it?

'Shindig'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Consuela - Feb 18, 2004 7:38:16 am PST #7356 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

Mostly, all I could come up with was, Christie Brinkley is the evil queen of the pod people! Eyebrow waxing for EVERYBODY!!

Oh, snerk.

t heavy sigh

God, I hope they let her have her old eyebrows back for the mini. I'll sacrifice a logical resolution of the jujubes issue (because none of their cliffhanger resolutions ever make a lot of sense anyway) in order to get a recognizable Aeryn.


Micole - Feb 18, 2004 8:06:13 am PST #7357 of 10000
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

one is to throw bones to the fans so they feel pleased with themselves, without actually contributing to the quality of the product (continuity nods that don't add to the story, but make you feel all cool for noticing)

I would correct to say "nods that don't add to the plot, or possibly even themes," rather than the story itself; I tend to think the continuity nods and other internal allusions add to the story by creating a sense of depth and history to the fictional world under construction.


erikaj - Feb 18, 2004 8:24:59 am PST #7358 of 10000
Always Anti-fascist!

Thanks for clearing that up...well, kinda.


§ ita § - Feb 18, 2004 8:33:04 am PST #7359 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I tend to think the continuity nods and other internal allusions add to the story by creating a sense of depth and history to the fictional world under construction.

My interpretation had been that a fanwank was one that didn't even do that -- otherwise it'd have a nicer name. Just something to make me feel all special in my obsessiveness.


Micole - Feb 18, 2004 9:00:01 am PST #7360 of 10000
I've been working on a song about the difference between analogy and metaphor.

But what's the difference between a continuity nod that adds depth and a continuity nod that's a shout-out besides the viewer's perception of it? Before I started reading the Buffistas, it never even occurred to me that continuity nods might be meant as a dialogue.

"ita moon" is a fanwank in the "nod to the fans" sense, but it's not a continuity detail. I just don't tend to think continuity is gratuitous.


erikaj - Feb 18, 2004 9:15:42 am PST #7361 of 10000
Always Anti-fascist!

Continuity, like sex, is never gratuitous. But I know what ita means. Like continuity is that Oz's band was still Dingoes. Little fannish details like Will taking the Dingoes poster to college? Fanwank. Cause I appreciated it, but I wouldn't have missed it, right?


Lyra Jane - Feb 18, 2004 9:20:33 am PST #7362 of 10000
Up with the sun

I've never heard fanwank used to mean small continuity details/shoutouts to the fans, but it could be I'm just not paying attention.


§ ita § - Feb 18, 2004 9:20:36 am PST #7363 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Little fannish details like Will taking the Dingoes poster to college?

No, that I think is a character note for Willow.

But sometimes (so of course my mind is blank) it's a "Aren't we clever! We remembered! You're clever too, because you noticed!" and that's what I'm thinking off.

Now I just have to think of an example.

I don't interpret shoutouts as wanks.


Consuela - Feb 18, 2004 9:42:55 am PST #7364 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

I don't interpret shoutouts as wanks.

Neither do I. "ita moon" is a shoutout but not a fanwank. It's performed by the producers, not the fans.

Fanwanks are by fans. Continuity nods are by producers. They may overlap in content, however.


§ ita § - Feb 18, 2004 10:54:16 am PST #7365 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Fanwanks are by fans.

So the other definition I mentioned above isn't one you've come across?