I'm pissed off to an extent, largely because there are already so many problems with NC-17 being conflated with porn being conflated with slash. But I understand why the decision was made. Plus, it was never my primary source of fic.

Here's a question: in the mountie thread, Allison mention dS_Asylum. What are ya'lls favorite lists currently? I have a pornon for Silverlake, myself.

I like Silverlake, Glass Onion, and DS Asylum---and vidder. Mostly I'm on fiction only lists so I just scan those to see if any title catches my attention. It also means a ton of crossposts for me, but I can't figure out what to eliminate because some stories don't get cross posted.

I wish there was a good discussion list for Smallville, but I haven't really found one. I get BBF on digest so mostly I scan that and don't really read it in depth. Actually I've slacked off reading fanfiction lately and have only read certain authors and fandoms.

What I'd really like is to find good Harper/Tyr stories but I don't know where to look and the authors I know about seem to write Harper/Dylan or Tyr/Dylan (which doesn't appeal to me at all).

Hi folks - just a fly-by. God help me, I'm belatedly falling in love with The X Files. I mean, I already like it well enough, but I'm starting to get this whole fannish level of amorousness going on, despite the fact that I've still only seen it patchily. Very much assisted by the Skinner-oost, of course. And the GA-oost and the Mulder-oost and Krycek-oost...and boy, I sure am shallow. Huh.Watched five episodes back to back tonight, and was delighted when one of them involved Skinner in Y fronts. Delighted. (I actually squeaked most unbecomingly and then rewound. Twice.) I'm looking into the future and it involves the purchase of more videos. Happily they're available for a couple of quid, so that's good.

Sorry, that wasn't what I was going to say, though. (And fwiw my main lists at present are Silverlake, Glass Onion, ClarkLexFic & BFA) The reason I swung by was to ask whether the lovely Shrift or the lovely Dana or any other lovely ficreading types [/sincere yet deeply cheesy sycophancy] could point me to any good (or even bad) Point Break slash? I mean, It's GOT to be out there. I just re-watched it for the first time in ten years or so and it really is just as slashy as I remember. I mean, I watched it when I'd never heard of slash, along with a gay boy from the Stephen Fry school of Olde Englishe Queendom and two lovely young ladies of flexible sexuality, and we were all yelling encouragement at the screen. Outwith Smallville and Bring It On it's just about the slashiest thing I've ever seen. I feel the need for fic. Hell, I even started writing fic whilst I was watching it, but I'm sure it's already out there somewhere waiting for me.

Cripes! Have to mail thing to Fay. Beta thing. Yeah.

Getting on it.

Okay, now for my thoughts WRT FF.net and the NC-17 stuff.

More saddened than angry. It's been hashed over by more articulate folks than myself, of course, so I'm not going into detail. I'm not mad at the site owner for doing what was deemed necessary. I share some of Jenny O's concerns as stated on her LJ. (Specifically, the idea that it's a symptom of a larger problem)

I'm a little cheesed off, however, at some people (not on this board) who rant about the extreme unfairness of it (ranting about free speech the whole time), but don't want to go to the effort of either making their own archive (if they write), or seeking out/supporting the other multifandom archives out there.

Yes, it's a concern. Yes, there are alternatives. No, this isn't the end of the world. Yes, there is a frightful lack of respect for the first amendment in today's United States. However, nowhere in the Bill of Rights does it say "A well regulated NC-17 Friendly Archive, being necessary to the well-being of writers and readers, the right of the people to post and read naughty fanfiction on a private board, shall not be infringed. In fact, if they decide to remove those sections, the reader has been harmed, and his freedom of speech abridged."

No, I make no sense. Hmm.

Point Break, eh?

Hmm. There's a page for it on the Complete Kingdom of Slash, but it's currently down due to archive reorganization.

And then there's Point Break fanfic in German... Rareslash is down... Movieslash doesn't list it...

Well, bugger. What happened to all the infrastructure?

You make perfect sense, PMM. And I'll spare everyone my canned rant on the inapplicability of First Amendment Law to much of the internet.

Fay, let us know if you need XF recs. Between Dana, Micole, Vonnie and me, we can probably cover most of what you're looking for. Your newbie enthusiasm is making me a little nostalgic.

It's the whole 5-hours of sleep in between a total of 18.5 hours of mind-sucking work. Makes me doubt my ability to form actual thoughts.

Speaking of X-Files...

Mr. Lea is going to be in a handful of NYPD Blue episodes this season. I can't decide if I'll watch, but thought I'd let you know.

In fact, I'll give you the quick and dirty. Read everything you can by: Punk M., Plausible Deniability, Jesemie's Evil Twin, Sabine, M. Sebasky, Fialka, Analise, Torch, Jill Selby, Rachel Howard, bugs, Syntax6, wen (if you can find it), CazQ, Magdeleine (yes our own wayward Lena), Wayward, Khyber, Nascent (and her evil twin Dark Nascent), Anjou, Revely, Kelly Keil, Marasmus, MustangSally and RivkaT (together and apart), Vehemently, Jess M., Livia Balaban, Maria Nicole... There's a ton of good writing in XF, and those are just a few of writers of "my" generation, mostly het and gen.

There are a lot of good newer writers I'm not as familiar with, as well, and I never read much of the slash but I know there's a lot of good slash too.

Suela, you pusher you. 'Twixt you and Nutty I'm liable to become very well read very quickly. At least I am next time I have more than a few minutes online. ;o) Thank you.

And I'll spare everyone my canned rant on the inapplicability of First Amendment Law to much of the internet

Let me make it for you. WE ARE NOT IN AMERICA. Your first amendment is meaningless, oh dimwitted shouty people, because your fellow fans are in Canada, Australia, India, Britain, Gibralta, India, Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Japan, China, in fact the rest of the world. Because The USA, splendid though it is in many, many ways, is not the world. And the Internet is not in the USA. [/totally redundant rant which nobody here needs.] Sorry. Yes, it pisses me off too and I did make a comment on Jenny O's journal to that effect.