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Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Consuela - Sep 24, 2002 6:59:58 pm PDT #125 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

You make perfect sense, PMM. And I'll spare everyone my canned rant on the inapplicability of First Amendment Law to much of the internet.

Fay, let us know if you need XF recs. Between Dana, Micole, Vonnie and me, we can probably cover most of what you're looking for. Your newbie enthusiasm is making me a little nostalgic.


P.M. Marc - Sep 24, 2002 7:04:43 pm PDT #126 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It's the whole 5-hours of sleep in between a total of 18.5 hours of mind-sucking work. Makes me doubt my ability to form actual thoughts.

Speaking of X-Files...

Mr. Lea is going to be in a handful of NYPD Blue episodes this season. I can't decide if I'll watch, but thought I'd let you know.


Consuela - Sep 24, 2002 7:06:30 pm PDT #127 of 10000
We are Buffistas. This isn't our first apocalypse. -- Pix

In fact, I'll give you the quick and dirty. Read everything you can by: Punk M., Plausible Deniability, Jesemie's Evil Twin, Sabine, M. Sebasky, Fialka, Analise, Torch, Jill Selby, Rachel Howard, bugs, Syntax6, wen (if you can find it), CazQ, Magdeleine (yes our own wayward Lena), Wayward, Khyber, Nascent (and her evil twin Dark Nascent), Anjou, Revely, Kelly Keil, Marasmus, MustangSally and RivkaT (together and apart), Vehemently, Jess M., Livia Balaban, Maria Nicole... There's a ton of good writing in XF, and those are just a few of writers of "my" generation, mostly het and gen.

There are a lot of good newer writers I'm not as familiar with, as well, and I never read much of the slash but I know there's a lot of good slash too.


Fay - Sep 25, 2002 12:49:46 am PDT #128 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Suela, you pusher you. 'Twixt you and Nutty I'm liable to become very well read very quickly. At least I am next time I have more than a few minutes online. ;o) Thank you.

And I'll spare everyone my canned rant on the inapplicability of First Amendment Law to much of the internet

Let me make it for you. WE ARE NOT IN AMERICA. Your first amendment is meaningless, oh dimwitted shouty people, because your fellow fans are in Canada, Australia, India, Britain, Gibralta, India, Western Europe, Eastern Europe, Japan, China, in fact the rest of the world. Because The USA, splendid though it is in many, many ways, is not the world. And the Internet is not in the USA. [/totally redundant rant which nobody here needs.] Sorry. Yes, it pisses me off too and I did make a comment on Jenny O's journal to that effect.


Madrigal Costello - Sep 25, 2002 9:14:45 am PDT #129 of 10000
It's a remora, dimwit.

Well, a lot of people like ff.net for finding NC17's outside their normal fandoms, or for reading the works of new writers who haven't got stuff up at the major archives. Right now there's talk among some of simply doing a mini-Bowdlerization of their NC-17's, listing them as R's, and then providing links to the full smutty story.


P.M. Marc - Sep 25, 2002 9:30:02 am PDT #130 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Yes, it pisses me off too and I did make a comment on Jenny O's journal to that effect.

Yes, but the site in question is located in the USA, and any legal threats it may or may not have received would have involved US law.

(Edit: I don't know what all the pressures were that lead to the decision, but I imagine there must have been at least something that smacked of potential legal action.)


P.M. Marc - Sep 25, 2002 9:36:18 am PDT #131 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Cereal:

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Madrigal Costello - Sep 25, 2002 9:37:01 am PDT #132 of 10000
It's a remora, dimwit.

If the owner is a US citizen and the site is being run out of the US, then it makes sense to be that US law would apply. The internet is not its own country, so each site would obey the laws of the country it's from. Otherwise, nothing could really be sent because everything is illegal somewhere.

Though now I'm thinking that it'd be worthwhile to find out about running a site from some area not specifically under control, like a bit of Antartica or International waters.


P.M. Marc - Sep 25, 2002 9:38:35 am PDT #133 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Though now I'm thinking that it'd be worthwhile to find out about running a site from some area not specifically under control, like a bit of Antartica or International waters.

This had me, again, thinking about the Buffistas buying a small island country. Sigh.


Madrigal Costello - Sep 25, 2002 9:54:53 am PDT #134 of 10000
It's a remora, dimwit.

Our own island, and for us, instead of 17 or 18 or 21 as the age of freedom, we could go by maturity or intelligence or ability to construct sentences. (I mean, I wouldn't mind all those spams about the gang-banging of Shakira if they were spelled correctly and used the subjunctive tense in the right place.)