Oh, look at the pretties!

Kaylee ,'Shindig'


Fan Fiction: Writers, Readers, and Enablers  

This thread is for fanfic recs, links, and discussion, but not for actual posting of fanfic.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 02, 2002 10:10:21 am PST #1091 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

But they're no deeper or shallower than any other celebs that get RPFed.

ita, wrod, and they don't deserve it any more. There's a line- it's called the fiction/non-fiction divide, and crossing it both squicks me mightily and seems to be basically unfair to all those involved.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 02, 2002 10:12:42 am PST #1092 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

so many of my favorite fanfic authors are writing puppyslash that I don't want to read.

And I have Anya's voice: 'This is peer pressure. You'll be making me take drugs next.' So I say, keep away from it if you don't like it, shrift.

Further to that, I'm jonesing for a good bit of Kirk/Spock. Something romantic, something sexy, (one or both, I don't mind), something good, and on the medium to short side of long. Anyone want to recommend something?


Nutty - Dec 02, 2002 10:13:58 am PST #1093 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Well, yeah. You don't got to be deep to be accorded rights. But given my druthers, I might hang out with other people.

Actually, here's a question. I know there's a pretty strong taboo against having fictional characters who are minors (HP, S1 Buffy, e.g.) do adult things like sex or drugs (or buying a house, but that's something I don't see fanfic about very often). Does the same taboo apply when the 'characters' are real people and also minors? Or, having broken one taboo, is it common, or considered OK, to break the age barrier? I guess I ask because surely some of those Tiger Beat creatures are under 17, and I don't know how fans would act about them.


amyth - Dec 02, 2002 10:16:20 am PST #1094 of 10000
And none of us deserving the cruelty or the grace -- Leonard Cohen

God, stop it, y'all! I have to walk past a video store on my way home. Don't do this to me.

I resisted Summer Catch, safe in the knowledge that CK had about .04 seconds of screentime. Fic and screencaps like these are only going to make me do that thing where I rent Sorority Boys.

And then, like Shrift, I will likely have rage issues with the writers. However, unlike Shrift, I am not a fic writer, so my only outlet may end up being the aforementioned beating-with-large-dildo. Which may lead to prison, and the removal of my high-speed Internet access privileges. And other bad things about being in prison, like they may not let me watch my shows, and I'd miss my dog.

I don't get RPS either. And I'm okay with that, except for the part where so many of my favorite fanfic authors are writing puppyslash that I don't want to read.

I know. It's strange.

Re: tag. Thanks!!


§ ita § - Dec 02, 2002 10:16:36 am PST #1095 of 10000
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

But given my druthers, I might hang out with other people.

Okay. I'm going to cop to having hung out with a boy band member, and it was fun and he didn't seem shallower than folk I hang out with regularly, and now I can't quite judge any of their personalities because of their job.

Still disdains me some Britney, though. You can't take that away from me.


Fay - Dec 02, 2002 10:17:10 am PST #1096 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

there's a pretty strong taboo against having fictional characters who are minors (HP, S1 Buffy, e.g.) do adult things like sex or drugs (or buying a house, but that's something I don't see fanfic about very often).

bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

"NC-17, for strong language and underage purchase of real estate."

In answer to your question, though, I have no idea.


Susan W. - Dec 02, 2002 10:23:54 am PST #1097 of 10000
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

My google journey through HP fanfic sites was interesting, to say the least. I've never felt so out-of-step with fanon in my life--it's really hard to find anything at all if you don't much care what happens to Draco, or if you can live with Hermione/Ron but are more inclined to Hermione/Harry. Most other fandoms I've been part of are a bit more varied. I mean, sure, there are several popular pairings in BtVS fanfic that completely puzzle me, but there also seems to be at least a dozen good stories out there for any two characters with decent chemistry, so it's not like I can't find anything to read just because the idea of Spike/Xander doesn't turn me on.

I'm just rambling here, and cogitating on the different way people must experience canon to come up with such different fanfic consensuses.


Nutty - Dec 02, 2002 10:29:43 am PST #1098 of 10000
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Dude. My weekend was possessed by, among other things, the ways other poeple have researched, over the last 40 years, what Tolkien intended with this or that diacritical mark, and how to back-form past tenses of invented words according to the attested evidence.

You haven't seen fanon till you're putting little stars next to words to say, "Well, this word appears nowhere in Tolkien canon, but this is how other words like it have acted under these circumstances, and it can't be this other thing because we have a word for that, and other people think it should be like this too, so here it is."

Makes one's head spin, if one is also a student of (real) historical linguistics. Grimm's laws of Germanic consonant change? All fanon!!


Fay - Dec 02, 2002 10:31:30 am PST #1099 of 10000
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Makes one's head spin, if one is also a student of (real) historical linguistics. Grimm's laws of Germanic consonant change? All fanon!!

Blimey.


Am-Chau Yarkona - Dec 02, 2002 10:32:19 am PST #1100 of 10000
I bop to Wittgenstein. -- Nutty

it's really hard to find anything at all if you don't much care what happens to Draco, or if you can live with Hermione/Ron but are more inclined to Hermione/Harry.

HP is a very young fandom, both in the sense that it hasn't been around that long, and in that the readers and writers seem to (on average, given what I know) be younger than in other fandoms. BtVS attracts a very wide range of people, of all sorts of ages and backgrounds, who therefore have very wide-ranging takes on the text: HP seems to appeal to a narrower band, who therefore produce a narrower range of fanfics. Just my ideas.

Also, HP isn't as subtext heavy as BtVS- Joss and co. seem to have a least thought about almost every pairing possible, and put some subtext in for them, while Rowling seems to me to be a bit thin of subtext, except for a limited range of pairings/characters.