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DavidS - Jul 03, 2007 6:29:54 pm PDT #9844 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

A San Francisco Top 10 could have The Rock !

I think we start with Vertigo.

Megan, Amoeba has a section of just SF movies on their front rack of the DVD section (over by the registers). Includes everything from Dark Passage to So, I Married an Axe Murderer.

Other SF movies: Foul Play, DOA, High Anxiety, 48 Hours, Inside Moves (more an East Bay movie, but great if you ever catch it on cable. It's got David Morse and Jon Savage and Diana Scarwid. Scrappy, it's your kind of movie. Even though it came out in 1980, it's really a seventies movie at heart.)

Scrappy - Jul 03, 2007 6:32:10 pm PDT #9845 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I know that film--it's excellent.

Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 03, 2007 7:01:13 pm PDT #9846 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Are all of Bryan Singer's movies gay? I don't think so.

Well, The Usual Suspects and Superman Returns weren't. I'd argue that his X movies used mutancy as a metaphor for the gay experience, and Apt Pupil was pretty damn slashy even before it was made into a movie.

§ ita § - Jul 03, 2007 7:04:24 pm PDT #9847 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'd argue that his X movies used mutancy as a metaphor for the gay experience

Any more than for race?

DavidS - Jul 03, 2007 7:08:15 pm PDT #9848 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Any more than for race?

Mutants tend to be in the closet.

§ ita § - Jul 03, 2007 7:42:52 pm PDT #9849 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Mutants tend to be in the closet.

Have you seen the Morlocks? Angel? Beast?

It would be odd to set up a narrative Malcolm X and MLK Jr. scenario and have it not be at all about race.

DavidS - Jul 03, 2007 7:58:55 pm PDT #9850 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Have you seen the Morlocks? Angel? Beast?

Basically the drag queens of the mutantverse. Disinterested in passing.

I mean, really, that is the Morlocks function in their first appearance in the X-Men - to challenge the notion that mutants can/should assimilate.

Polter-Cow - Jul 03, 2007 8:17:38 pm PDT #9851 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Basically the drag queens of the mutantverse. Disinterested in passing.

Er, more like physically incapable of passing.

DavidS - Jul 03, 2007 8:30:52 pm PDT #9852 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Er, more like physically incapable of passing.

Except Mystique.

Laga - Jul 03, 2007 8:40:18 pm PDT #9853 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I think the biggest difference between being gay and being black (as far as what mutancy is a metaphor for) is that most parents aren't surprised and disappointed to find out their kid is black.

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