I know that film--it's excellent.
Illyria: We cling to what is gone. Is there anything in this life but grief? Wesley: There's love. There's hope...for some. There's hope that you'll find something worthy...that your life will lead you to some joy...that after everything...you can still be surprised. Illyria: Is that enough? Is that enough to live on?
'Shells'
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Scrappy - Jul 03, 2007 6:32:10 pm PDT #9845 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jul 03, 2007 7:01:13 pm PDT #9846 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Are all of Bryan Singer's movies gay? I don't think so.
Well, The Usual Suspects and Superman Returns weren't. I'd argue that his X movies used mutancy as a metaphor for the gay experience, and Apt Pupil was pretty damn slashy even before it was made into a movie.
§ ita § - Jul 03, 2007 7:04:24 pm PDT #9847 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I'd argue that his X movies used mutancy as a metaphor for the gay experience
Any more than for race?
DavidS - Jul 03, 2007 7:08:15 pm PDT #9848 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Any more than for race?
Mutants tend to be in the closet.
§ ita § - Jul 03, 2007 7:42:52 pm PDT #9849 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Mutants tend to be in the closet.
Have you seen the Morlocks? Angel? Beast?
It would be odd to set up a narrative Malcolm X and MLK Jr. scenario and have it not be at all about race.
DavidS - Jul 03, 2007 7:58:55 pm PDT #9850 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Have you seen the Morlocks? Angel? Beast?
Basically the drag queens of the mutantverse. Disinterested in passing.
I mean, really, that is the Morlocks function in their first appearance in the X-Men - to challenge the notion that mutants can/should assimilate.
Polter-Cow - Jul 03, 2007 8:17:38 pm PDT #9851 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Basically the drag queens of the mutantverse. Disinterested in passing.
Er, more like physically incapable of passing.
DavidS - Jul 03, 2007 8:30:52 pm PDT #9852 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Er, more like physically incapable of passing.
Except Mystique.
Laga - Jul 03, 2007 8:40:18 pm PDT #9853 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
I think the biggest difference between being gay and being black (as far as what mutancy is a metaphor for) is that most parents aren't surprised and disappointed to find out their kid is black.
§ ita § - Jul 03, 2007 9:53:22 pm PDT #9854 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
The correlation to race is explicitly stated by writers, as is the Malcolm/Martin Luther thing. And since the positions of methods (by any means neccessary, etc) were designed to (and to me succeed in doing so) map to the civil liberties movements, I don't put homosexuality first.