Don't belong. Dangerous, like you. Can't be controlled. Can't be trusted. Everyone could just go on without me and not have to worry. People could be what they wanted to be. Could be with the people they wanted. Live simple. No secrets.

River ,'Objects In Space'


Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


§ ita § - Jul 03, 2007 7:04:24 pm PDT #9847 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I'd argue that his X movies used mutancy as a metaphor for the gay experience

Any more than for race?


DavidS - Jul 03, 2007 7:08:15 pm PDT #9848 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Any more than for race?

Mutants tend to be in the closet.


§ ita § - Jul 03, 2007 7:42:52 pm PDT #9849 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Mutants tend to be in the closet.

Have you seen the Morlocks? Angel? Beast?

It would be odd to set up a narrative Malcolm X and MLK Jr. scenario and have it not be at all about race.


DavidS - Jul 03, 2007 7:58:55 pm PDT #9850 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Have you seen the Morlocks? Angel? Beast?

Basically the drag queens of the mutantverse. Disinterested in passing.

I mean, really, that is the Morlocks function in their first appearance in the X-Men - to challenge the notion that mutants can/should assimilate.


Polter-Cow - Jul 03, 2007 8:17:38 pm PDT #9851 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Basically the drag queens of the mutantverse. Disinterested in passing.

Er, more like physically incapable of passing.


DavidS - Jul 03, 2007 8:30:52 pm PDT #9852 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Er, more like physically incapable of passing.

Except Mystique.


Laga - Jul 03, 2007 8:40:18 pm PDT #9853 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I think the biggest difference between being gay and being black (as far as what mutancy is a metaphor for) is that most parents aren't surprised and disappointed to find out their kid is black.


§ ita § - Jul 03, 2007 9:53:22 pm PDT #9854 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The correlation to race is explicitly stated by writers, as is the Malcolm/Martin Luther thing. And since the positions of methods (by any means neccessary, etc) were designed to (and to me succeed in doing so) map to the civil liberties movements, I don't put homosexuality first.


Laga - Jul 03, 2007 9:59:08 pm PDT #9855 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

I defintely see the MLK/Malcolm X thing. I think the movie can be both. To me the scene with Angel and the shears is all about trying to keep your parents from knowing the truth about you. Trying to cut away that part of you that doesn't fit in with society.


Sean K - Jul 03, 2007 10:30:15 pm PDT #9856 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I have just printed out tickets for tomorrow for Ratatouille at the El Cap.

I love the digital age.