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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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Glamcookie - Nov 21, 2006 7:43:48 am PST #5848 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I loved Short Cuts when it first came out but GF and I rewatched it recently and it didn't hold up. Even though I know Dr. T sucks, we still liked it due to the Kate Hudson/Liv Tyler love story angle. We're so predictable. RIP, Altman.


juliana - Nov 21, 2006 7:45:44 am PST #5849 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Sound design. His biggest, most-lasting contribution IMHO. The overlapping conversations, often with the important one not in the foreground.

Oh my, yes. He taught me how to pay attention to the wee details.

I actually quite like Pret-a-Porter, even though it's not that good.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 21, 2006 7:46:26 am PST #5850 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

How about, top 5 Altaman movies not made by Altman:

Melvin & Howard: Jonathan Demme
Choose Me: Alan Rudolph (definitely my favorite of his movies)
The Late Show: Robert Benton
Smile: Michael Ritchie
Something by Hal Ashby (can't decide which)

Or the Bizarro!Altman top 5:

O.C. & Stiggs
Pret a Porter
H.E.A.L.T.H.
Quintet
Beyond Therapy


Fred Pete - Nov 21, 2006 7:47:16 am PST #5851 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Gosford Park and MASH, by all means. I remember enjoing The Player, but I don't remember a lot of details.

I only saw Nashville fairly recently and was disappointed. It seemed to need another half hour -- like Altman was trying to say something but never got it off the tip of his tongue.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 21, 2006 7:50:16 am PST #5852 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'm a huge fan of POPEYE (I saw it twice when it was in theaters), but I definitely think it's one that gets better on repeat watches.

And Matt is so correct about Shelly Duvall being spot-on for Olive Oyl - I can't even imagine another actress in the role.


Hayden - Nov 21, 2006 7:52:38 am PST #5853 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

GC, I had the same flip-flop on Short Cuts. Also Nashville, although I think that there's enough to redeem the movie overall.

As far as the baby Altmans go, I liked Magnolia a lot, although ultimately there was no there there. My co-editor Gary makes a great argument that Winterbottom is Altman's true heir.


Sean K - Nov 21, 2006 7:57:33 am PST #5854 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I'm a huge fan of POPEYE (I saw it twice when it was in theaters), but I definitely think it's one that gets better on repeat watches.

Frank and I are one. I was just scrolling to the end to champion Popeye as one of his (IMO) more enjoyable films.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 21, 2006 8:04:02 am PST #5855 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Winterbottom is Altman's true heir

Interesting. I really must get around to reading that issue. My biggest problem is that I hate reading lengthy pieces on-line, and there isn't really a good option with THH for printing (though I did slog through the Peckinpah articles using cut & paste one day when I had nothing to do at work).


DavidS - Nov 21, 2006 8:04:51 am PST #5856 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm also a big Popeye fan. But I'm one of the few people who's actually read some of the original Segar Thimble Theater strips and owns the Fleischer animated Popeyes too. I appreciated the fidelity to both of those visions you get from Feiffer's script, but also the originality of Altman's vision. Plus Shelley Duvall as Olive Oyl. "He needs me / he needs me / he needs me / he needs me / he needs Meeeeee!"

The Long Goodbye is one of my favorites too. Sterling Hayden! Jim Bouton! That ending. That coke bottle.

Hmmm, I've got McCabe on the TiVo right now...


Scrappy - Nov 21, 2006 8:08:10 am PST #5857 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

1. McCabe & Mrs. Miller (possibly my favorite film of all time)
2. Gosford Park (Gets better on repeated viewings)
3. MASH (not only a great fim, a great influence in attitude and technique)
4. The Player (Just saw it recently--it holds up beautifully)
5. Nashville (amazing cast, so many of whom step way out of their comfort zones)

Oh, and Long Goodbye.