Mal: Then I call it a win. What's the problem? Inara: Should I start with the part where you're stranded in the middle of nowhere, or the part where you have no clothes?

'Trash'


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Frankenbuddha - Nov 21, 2006 8:08:14 am PST #5858 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The Long Goodbye is one of my favorites too.

Hec and I are sharing a brain again. I need to see McCABE (and CALIFORNIA SPLIT and NASHVILLE) again (and THIEVES LIKE US period), but as of right now, THE LONG GOODBYE is my favorite Altman. Heh, given how much Elliot Gould mutters and asides, it was practically a dry run for POPEYE.


Tom Scola - Nov 21, 2006 8:10:19 am PST #5859 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

POPEYE is a flawed film. In his script, Jules Feifer was writing E.C. Segar's Thimble Theater comic strip, while Altman was attempting to film a Max Fleisher cartoon. The differences between the comic and the cartoon are too great that it could ever work.

The Fleisher cartoons, BTW, are a big influence on Altman's style of overlapping dialog, which is probably took on the project to begin with.


DavidS - Nov 21, 2006 8:11:28 am PST #5860 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hec and I are sharing a brain again

I didn't even mention how much I like Rudolph's Choose Me.


Tom Scola - Nov 21, 2006 8:17:06 am PST #5861 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Hec's been stealing my brain, too.


Scrappy - Nov 21, 2006 8:17:12 am PST #5862 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I LOVE Choose Me. I assigned it to one of my screenwriting classes, and it got incredibly strong reactions. People either loved it or loathed it. One of my students almost quit the class, he was so furious that I would assign such a film.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 21, 2006 8:20:39 am PST #5863 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I didn't even mention how much I like Rudolph's Choose Me.

Proof that Leslie Ann Warren could have been another Susan Sarandon if she'd gotten the right roles (I always thought they looked a bit alike anyway), among other revelations.


DavidS - Nov 21, 2006 8:20:39 am PST #5864 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

People either loved it or loathed it.

I kind of get that since Rudolph's other movies are so incredibly mannered. I thought I'd like Trouble in Mind, but didn't really. But the script is so tight and surprising on Choose Me and the performances are great. Damn, Keith Carradine's character is interesting. The slow series of reveals about him is just awesome storytelling.


Glamcookie - Nov 21, 2006 8:23:23 am PST #5865 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

We watched Brothers of the Head the other night. It was nicely shot, but overall we were kind of meh about it. They left out too many details, like how did they die?


Frankenbuddha - Nov 21, 2006 8:25:16 am PST #5866 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

People either loved it or loathed it. One of my students almost quit the class, he was so furious that I would assign such a film.

I've never known anyone personally to dislike CHOOSE ME, but I can see that, for the reasons Hec mentions. I rather like TROUBLE IN MIND (and EQUINOX, too) but Rudolph almost always tries too hard, where Altman's problem on occasion (which I think was also his gift) was that even when he was being ponderous/pretentious, his movies feel like they were effortless for him.


erikaj - Nov 21, 2006 8:52:06 am PST #5867 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

My brother must have seen the Altman Popeye a billion times. I liked it...the first half-billion. I like MASH(Duh) and the Long Goodbye, and thanks to my bunky here, the Deadwood-inspiring McCabe. I liked Short Cuts too, even though it thwarted my initial impulse to write a High Hat essay and made me curse and throw shit.