I just said that you're pretty. Even when you're covered in...engine grease, you're... No, especially, especially when you're covered in engine grease.

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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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Frankenbuddha - Nov 21, 2006 7:50:16 am PST #5852 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'm a huge fan of POPEYE (I saw it twice when it was in theaters), but I definitely think it's one that gets better on repeat watches.

And Matt is so correct about Shelly Duvall being spot-on for Olive Oyl - I can't even imagine another actress in the role.


Hayden - Nov 21, 2006 7:52:38 am PST #5853 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

GC, I had the same flip-flop on Short Cuts. Also Nashville, although I think that there's enough to redeem the movie overall.

As far as the baby Altmans go, I liked Magnolia a lot, although ultimately there was no there there. My co-editor Gary makes a great argument that Winterbottom is Altman's true heir.


Sean K - Nov 21, 2006 7:57:33 am PST #5854 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I'm a huge fan of POPEYE (I saw it twice when it was in theaters), but I definitely think it's one that gets better on repeat watches.

Frank and I are one. I was just scrolling to the end to champion Popeye as one of his (IMO) more enjoyable films.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 21, 2006 8:04:02 am PST #5855 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Winterbottom is Altman's true heir

Interesting. I really must get around to reading that issue. My biggest problem is that I hate reading lengthy pieces on-line, and there isn't really a good option with THH for printing (though I did slog through the Peckinpah articles using cut & paste one day when I had nothing to do at work).


DavidS - Nov 21, 2006 8:04:51 am PST #5856 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm also a big Popeye fan. But I'm one of the few people who's actually read some of the original Segar Thimble Theater strips and owns the Fleischer animated Popeyes too. I appreciated the fidelity to both of those visions you get from Feiffer's script, but also the originality of Altman's vision. Plus Shelley Duvall as Olive Oyl. "He needs me / he needs me / he needs me / he needs me / he needs Meeeeee!"

The Long Goodbye is one of my favorites too. Sterling Hayden! Jim Bouton! That ending. That coke bottle.

Hmmm, I've got McCabe on the TiVo right now...


Scrappy - Nov 21, 2006 8:08:10 am PST #5857 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

1. McCabe & Mrs. Miller (possibly my favorite film of all time)
2. Gosford Park (Gets better on repeated viewings)
3. MASH (not only a great fim, a great influence in attitude and technique)
4. The Player (Just saw it recently--it holds up beautifully)
5. Nashville (amazing cast, so many of whom step way out of their comfort zones)

Oh, and Long Goodbye.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 21, 2006 8:08:14 am PST #5858 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

The Long Goodbye is one of my favorites too.

Hec and I are sharing a brain again. I need to see McCABE (and CALIFORNIA SPLIT and NASHVILLE) again (and THIEVES LIKE US period), but as of right now, THE LONG GOODBYE is my favorite Altman. Heh, given how much Elliot Gould mutters and asides, it was practically a dry run for POPEYE.


Tom Scola - Nov 21, 2006 8:10:19 am PST #5859 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

POPEYE is a flawed film. In his script, Jules Feifer was writing E.C. Segar's Thimble Theater comic strip, while Altman was attempting to film a Max Fleisher cartoon. The differences between the comic and the cartoon are too great that it could ever work.

The Fleisher cartoons, BTW, are a big influence on Altman's style of overlapping dialog, which is probably took on the project to begin with.


DavidS - Nov 21, 2006 8:11:28 am PST #5860 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Hec and I are sharing a brain again

I didn't even mention how much I like Rudolph's Choose Me.


Tom Scola - Nov 21, 2006 8:17:06 am PST #5861 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Hec's been stealing my brain, too.