It's not like she blew me off. She just left with another guy, that's all.

Riley ,'Conversations with Dead People'


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joe boucher - Nov 21, 2006 7:30:35 am PST #5843 of 10001
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

Anyone care to participate in an Altman deathmatch? Or make some Altman lists?

I boycott, in advance, any deathmatch not won by McCabe and Mrs. Miller.

My Altman Top 5 (Top 5 what? I dunno, just things I like.)

1) McCabe and Mrs Miller. Esp. Warren Beatty, & even more esp. "I got poetry in me!"
2) Sound design. His biggest, most-lasting contribution IMHO. The overlapping conversations, often with the important one not in the foreground.
3) The music in The Long Goodbye. It's the same song throughout the movie, even Sterling Hayden's doorbell gets in on the action.
4) Sissy Spacek in 3 Women. 'Cause she was gorgeous & I'm shallow that way.
5) The Player: a) Buck Henry pitching "The Postgraduate" at the start, and (b) Lyle Lovett trying to teach Whoopie Goldberg how to say Gudmundsdottir.


Amy - Nov 21, 2006 7:30:43 am PST #5844 of 10001
Because books.

I'm trying to think -- I've seen The Player, and part of 3 Women (a really long time ago) and A Wedding (I think). Still haven't seen Nashville or McCabe and Mrs. Miller.

Oh, I've seen The Company, too. Which never quite struck me as an Altman film, and ended abruptly, I thought. I liked it, but I'm a sucker for a ballet movie.


Matt the Bruins fan - Nov 21, 2006 7:33:38 am PST #5845 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I think Popeye would get a pretty high percentage of votes for being a bad movie, but even that one has the silver lining of the single most perfect casting choice in motion picture history: Shelley Duvall as Olive Oyl.


Hayden - Nov 21, 2006 7:40:31 am PST #5846 of 10001
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

My least favorite Altmans:
1. Dr. T & The Women (2000)
2. Quintet (1979)
3. O.C. & Stiggs (1987)
4. Pret a Porter (1994)
5. Buffalo Bill and the Indians (1976)
6. Kansas City (1996)

On the fence:
1. Short Cuts (1993)
2. Come Back to the Five and Dime, Jimmy Dean, Jimmy Dean (1982)
3. MASH (1970)

I haven't seen any of the others, but I have A Prairie Home Companion, Tanner on Tanner, Vincent & Theo, Secret Honor, and Images in my Netflix queue.

Edit:

I think Popeye would get a pretty high percentage of votes for being a bad movie, but even that one has the silver lining of the single most perfect casting choice in motion picture history: Shelley Duvall as Olive Oyl.

I watched it again last year and was struck by how much better it was than I remembered it being. In fact, as my list shows, I liked quite a bit in retrospect.


beekaytee - Nov 21, 2006 7:40:42 am PST #5847 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

I loved Altman, even when I didn't like his work.

Favorites include Gosford Park and The Player.

I liked Cookie's Fortune more than I expected. The Wedding was filmed at my college and everyone said that Altman was a delight to work with.

To be frank, Short Cuts made me want to open a vein. And Popeye just made me go tsk, tsk

Bless his heart on all counts though. I've so enjoyed him and his lust for life/cinema.


Glamcookie - Nov 21, 2006 7:43:48 am PST #5848 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I loved Short Cuts when it first came out but GF and I rewatched it recently and it didn't hold up. Even though I know Dr. T sucks, we still liked it due to the Kate Hudson/Liv Tyler love story angle. We're so predictable. RIP, Altman.


juliana - Nov 21, 2006 7:45:44 am PST #5849 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Sound design. His biggest, most-lasting contribution IMHO. The overlapping conversations, often with the important one not in the foreground.

Oh my, yes. He taught me how to pay attention to the wee details.

I actually quite like Pret-a-Porter, even though it's not that good.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 21, 2006 7:46:26 am PST #5850 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

How about, top 5 Altaman movies not made by Altman:

Melvin & Howard: Jonathan Demme
Choose Me: Alan Rudolph (definitely my favorite of his movies)
The Late Show: Robert Benton
Smile: Michael Ritchie
Something by Hal Ashby (can't decide which)

Or the Bizarro!Altman top 5:

O.C. & Stiggs
Pret a Porter
H.E.A.L.T.H.
Quintet
Beyond Therapy


Fred Pete - Nov 21, 2006 7:47:16 am PST #5851 of 10001
Ann, that's a ferret.

Gosford Park and MASH, by all means. I remember enjoing The Player, but I don't remember a lot of details.

I only saw Nashville fairly recently and was disappointed. It seemed to need another half hour -- like Altman was trying to say something but never got it off the tip of his tongue.


Frankenbuddha - Nov 21, 2006 7:50:16 am PST #5852 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'm a huge fan of POPEYE (I saw it twice when it was in theaters), but I definitely think it's one that gets better on repeat watches.

And Matt is so correct about Shelly Duvall being spot-on for Olive Oyl - I can't even imagine another actress in the role.