Inara: So. Would you like to lecture me on the wickedness of my ways? Book: I brought you some supper, but if you'd prefer a lecture, I've a few very catchy ones prepped. Sin and hellfire... one has lepers.

'Serenity'


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Frankenbuddha - Aug 29, 2006 8:34:21 am PDT #3810 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I've never been less scared at a scary movie than with I Know What You Did Last Summer. I can't even begin to imagine how much less scary than that the sequel was.

And of course, the direct to DVD I'll Always Know What You Did Last Summer. Though I don't think DtDVD counts for this, since you're pretty much admitting to the worthlessness by default (there are probably exceptions - that is, DtD sequels that aren't worthless - but I can't think of any offhand).


Jessica - Aug 29, 2006 8:41:23 am PDT #3811 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Is there a franchise that bounced back on the third try?

I want to say yes, but I can't think of one off the top of my head. Indiana Jones, maybe?


Tom Scola - Aug 29, 2006 8:43:22 am PDT #3812 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Is there a franchise that bounced back on the third try?

Goldfinger.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 29, 2006 8:47:15 am PDT #3813 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Goldfinger.

I dunno, I prefer From Russia With Love to Goldfinger, and I think it was also better than Dr. No.

shrugs


§ ita § - Aug 29, 2006 8:50:21 am PDT #3814 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Not all direct to DVD releases were conceived that way, though. Some of them are an admission post-completion of suckage.


Aims - Aug 29, 2006 8:51:50 am PDT #3815 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Scarlett the horrendous sequel to Gone With the Wind.


ChiKat - Aug 29, 2006 8:53:19 am PDT #3816 of 10001
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Bring It On 2.

Even worse, Bring It On 3. Coming out on DVD soon! (To be fair, I haven't seen it, but it is a straight to DVD flick and I can't imagine it's any good.)


Aims - Aug 29, 2006 8:56:16 am PDT #3817 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Sometimes the straight to DVD surprises. About as often as Haley's Comet, but it can happen. Lion King 1 1/2 cracked my shit up.


Lee - Aug 29, 2006 8:58:02 am PDT #3818 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Toy Story 2 was originally supposed to be a direct to DVD, but then TPTB decided (rightly, IMO) it was good enough to be a theatrical release.


beekaytee - Aug 29, 2006 9:03:51 am PDT #3819 of 10001
Compassionately intolerant

Some of them are an admission post-completion of suckage.

Prophecy 3 & 4.

Now, the fact is, I loved them...but I'm bent that way.

Still, with no Walken, the point was lost like a lamb in a wolf den...BUT...shirtless Jason Scott Lee...so there's that.

The commentaries pretty much confess that the film makers were just doing it for a lark. They filmed both together and, with hope, or perhaps delusion, included a cliffhanger at the end of 5.

With a wobbly lack of shame, I admit that I'd rent 6 if it existed.