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Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

A place to talk about movies--old and new, good and bad, high art and high cheese. It's the place to place your kittens on the award winners, gossip about upcoming fims and discuss DVD releases and extras. Spoiler policy: White font all plot-related discussion until a movie's been in wide release two weeks, and keep the major HSQ in white font until two weeks after the video/DVD release.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 04, 2006 7:14:21 am PST #346 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

The jump out of the helicopter was nice. Pity he didn't hit the water headfirst, though, so we could have done away with the pants altogether.

I had the distinct impression from the first movie that Selene's family was killed in the 18th century, and she'd been a vampire a little over two centuries. Making her over 600 really sabotages the "you're too young to safely awaken Victor with your blood" bit that was a fairly major plot point back then.


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2006 7:33:51 am PST #347 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Death dealer means vampire, right? Not just one job description of vampire? Because the timelines really don't work.


Mr. Broom - Feb 04, 2006 7:52:47 am PST #348 of 10001
"When I look at people that I would like to feel have been a mentor or an inspiring kind of archetype of what I'd love to see my career eventually be mentioned as a footnote for in the same paragraph, it would be, like, Bowie." ~Trent Reznor

I was given to understand that Death Dealers were the fightin' vampires, the ones who did the dirty work so the rest could sit around wearing corsets and engaging in intrigues.


Mikey - Feb 04, 2006 8:14:06 am PST #349 of 10001
All this time, I thought Hunter was a bitch. Turns out she was just hungry.

Selene's been a death dealer for 600 years--was she turned in 1223 and just sat around?
Ita, there were some odd things in that chronology, and I'm not sure I remember well enough to answer you. The imprisoned brother: was his prison constructed before he was captured or after, and if so what did they do to keep him contained while it was being built? Selene was turned after it'd been built--but she was a child then, and wouldn't she have remained a child? Or was she a child then?

Kate Beckinsale in fetishwear clouds my memory.


Volans - Feb 04, 2006 10:33:27 am PST #350 of 10001
move out and draw fire

I was given to understand that Death Dealers were the fightin' vampires, the ones who did the dirty work so the rest could sit around wearing corsets and engaging in intrigues.

This.

If they're sticking with what they ripped from White Wolf games.

but since these guys were like Reilly, O'Connor, Washington, and Plot Device, it was like "eh."

HAR.


erikaj - Feb 04, 2006 10:59:40 am PST #351 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Thanks. It really did remind me of Simpsons war movie parodies with Fatty and Brooklyn(or is that KOTH? Both?)


Gris - Feb 04, 2006 1:29:02 pm PST #352 of 10001
Hey. New board.

Oh, I forgot to mention (until now) that I saw "Imagine Me and You." It has some really bad bits, but on the whole I came out with a huge grin on my face from the overwhelming cute.

More onscreen femslash, please! British accents optional but a nice benefit.


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2006 4:31:39 pm PST #353 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Mikey, I whited out your plot details. But I do remember that they waited to turn Selene until she was a young woman--they showed her when her family was killed (Victor hugs her afterwards).


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2006 5:10:30 pm PST #354 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh! I just remembered--the Ultraviolet trailer looked beyond awful. Laughable, even.


dcp - Feb 04, 2006 5:49:26 pm PST #355 of 10001
The more I learn, the more I realize how little I know.

Hah. Saw Underworld today (didn't like it) with Ultraviolet as one of the preview trailers, and came away thinking that Ultraviolet looks like it will be just as silly as Underworld, but at least the audience will be able to see what's going on.