Whoa! I... I think I'm having a thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a thought. Now I'm having a plan. Now I'm having a wiggins.

Xander ,'First Date'


Buffista Movies 5: Development Hell  

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§ ita § - Jul 04, 2006 10:12:15 am PDT #2656 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Neil Gaiman on Stardust:

it exists half-way between The Princess Bride and Pirates of the Caribbean

He sure knows which of my buttons to push.

Great cast too.


Beverly - Jul 04, 2006 1:24:43 pm PDT #2657 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

I still occasionally get Williams theme for The Cowboys confused with Copland's Rodeo. I also love his music for The Rievers. Later stuff, NSM.


Kate P. - Jul 04, 2006 2:22:54 pm PDT #2658 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Superman Returns:

That was fun, though I don't know if I'd see it again. I thought Brandon Routh did a pretty good job; I felt like I knew who he was, as both Clark and Superman, and I could see the differences between them. The moment that Jessica mentioned, when his glasses fall off as he's helping Lois gather up the things from her purse, was nicely done and helped bridge the gap between Clark and Supes. Most of the time that Superman was on screen, he looked so airbrushed or CGI'd that it really added to his alienness; it was a little distracting, but I think it worked well for Superman. Routh's acting, similarly, was just off enough to have the same effect.

As for the rest of them, I liked both Kate Bosworth and James Marsden more than I expected to, but overall Jimmy Olsen might have been my favorite character.

One deeply geeky question: Is Zool a Superman thing? Because in the scene where Superman crashes into the field behind the Kent farm, there's a shot of a Scrabble board in the house and the word "Zool" is spelled out. I don't know if that was intentional or not (it was actually spelled ZOO L, with the space before the L, which formed the beginning of another word) .


amych - Jul 04, 2006 2:33:02 pm PDT #2659 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

As in "there is only Zool"? That's from Ghostbusters.


§ ita § - Jul 04, 2006 2:34:20 pm PDT #2660 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ghostbusters is "Zuul." Googling shows there's an Amiga game called "Zool," so if it's a ref it's tres obscure.

I thought it was just a random result of the tiles shifting.


Kate P. - Jul 04, 2006 2:43:03 pm PDT #2661 of 10001
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

As in "there is only Zool"?

Yeah, that's what I meant. Is it really spelled "Zuul"? I know I've seen it spelled "Zool" before.

I thought it was just a random result

You're right. I just didn't remember where it was from, so I didn't know if it was an intentional reference or not.


Drawde - Jul 04, 2006 2:59:53 pm PDT #2662 of 10001
Wait! These aren't MY pants!

Re: Zool I didn't see zool but I could swear I saw "alienation" on the Scrabble board


Narrator - Jul 04, 2006 3:06:57 pm PDT #2663 of 10001
The evil is this way?

Superman Returns – Saw it again. Liked it better on reviewing. (Loved the Spider-Man 3 trailer, but I digress) As for Zool *** I thought I saw "alien" but it may have been "alienation." Something tells me there were a lot of interesting words on that Scrabble board. I'm sure some enterprising fan will break list them somewhere. ***


Jessica - Jul 04, 2006 3:17:54 pm PDT #2664 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Somewhat relatedly, I saw Superman again yesterday (still love it, saw more flaws this time) and afterwards, I couldn't remember if the city is ever actually named as Metropolis. On Luthor's map, I could only see New York -- and I was looking for Gotham and Metropolis this time -- and thinking back, I can't recall a single scene where someone says "Metropolis."

Anyone with a better memory than mine able to confirm one way or the other?


§ ita § - Jul 04, 2006 3:19:30 pm PDT #2665 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It is. Man, my visual memory is flaking on me, but I think, for sure, the wharf was Metropolis Port/Wharf/Docks. I can remember seeing it somewhere else...perhaps on the side of one of the boats. And a vague memory of hearing it in a news report.