I'm not going to be a happy camper when Jay and Silent Pike show up, am I?

Beep beep.

(bleakest movie EVER. Okay, maybe in a tie with the Dutch version of The Vanishing.)

Wow, I've got that boxed set, and always heard that The 7th Victim is bleak, but that's a BOLD statement. The Vanishing has the must shudder-inducing final shot I've ever seen, and, if you happened to just click on that one scene, you'd never understand why. I also love how the only violence in the movie is when the protagonist punches the villain.

Jennifer Jason Leigh (who I didn't even recognize when I saw it) in The Big Picture.

God, I LOVED her in that, and so much the antithesis of the perenial victim/misery goat she seems to love specialzing in (eXistenZ was another one, but she wasn't nearly as fun). And I LOVE her zany short at the beginning.

Of course, she looked and acted almost EXACTLY like a good friend of mine in college who was a perky-goth film major (down to the nervous energy and the hair). I was in a couple of her films even (in one playing a sadistic game show host, and in another dressed in a monsigner's outfit, even though religion wasn't any part of the story - one scene in that I'm drinking a beer in a snow-filled Harvard Collesium).

I agree with you on your side note about the film Bacon's shooting at the end, by the way, but I'm not sure if that's what Guest intended.

I'm not going to be a happy camper when Jay and Silent Pike show up, am I?

No, but I'd get a kick out of it.

Well, maybe not if it's JJ doing it instead of KS.

isn't Matt Damon a little bit old to be at any West Point like academy?

I'm probably way wrong on this, but I never got the impression that Starfleet Acadamy was West Point-like, in that it was a military primary school. I always thought it was just the officer training school for Starfleet, and would thus have students of varying age.

Yeah, but I'm fairly sure (even ignoring the books) that it's canon that Kirk was pretty young at Starfleet Academy, with the whole "youngest person to ever beat the Kobayashi Maru test". That was in one of the movies, right?

Although if it really will be Kirk and Spock together at Starfleet Academy, canon has obviously taken a long walk off a short spacedock.

Is there any canon on their first meeting?

J. J. Abrams knows not of the canon.

Is there any canon on their first meeting?

I don't believe there is, movie and TV-wise, but Spock was stationed on the Enterprise before Kirk got command of it.

Wow, I've got that boxed set, and always heard that The 7th Victim is bleak, but that's a BOLD statement.

Lewton's theme (which they refer to several times in the box set documentary) is "Death is good." The Seventh Victim is the nihilistic ne plus ultra of Hollywood film. Very understated, and filled with existential dread.

God, I LOVED her in that,

Me too!

And I LOVE her zany short at the beginning.

Once again, Frank and I are as one in our movie taste. I TiVoed the movie just to save her zany short on my Cartoon Expressionism reel.

Once again, Frank and I are as one in our movie taste. I TiVoed the movie just to save her zany short on my Cartoon Expressionism reel.

What was it called...AFTERBIRTH OF A NOTION? NATION? Something like that.

My friend in college was also the type who might have started a documentary about lost shopping carts before realizing it was really, really...fucking boring.

I like to think that, given Guest's later improv proclivities, that he was also doing some of that here, and what we saw from JJL was close to her real personality (i.e. she usually likes playing the opposite of her personality). A boy can dream.

While I'm at it, there's an AU where either she or the Coens (SOMEONE!) dialed-down the Hepburn-isms in HUDSUCKER PROXY, because she had great energy and enthusiasm there, but was trying. Way. Way. Too. Hard.