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Frankenbuddha - Jun 22, 2006 10:03:59 am PDT #2404 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I'm not going to be a happy camper when Jay and Silent Pike show up, am I?

No, but I'd get a kick out of it.

Well, maybe not if it's JJ doing it instead of KS.


Sean K - Jun 22, 2006 10:32:53 am PDT #2405 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

isn't Matt Damon a little bit old to be at any West Point like academy?

I'm probably way wrong on this, but I never got the impression that Starfleet Acadamy was West Point-like, in that it was a military primary school. I always thought it was just the officer training school for Starfleet, and would thus have students of varying age.


Dana - Jun 22, 2006 10:34:43 am PDT #2406 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Yeah, but I'm fairly sure (even ignoring the books) that it's canon that Kirk was pretty young at Starfleet Academy, with the whole "youngest person to ever beat the Kobayashi Maru test". That was in one of the movies, right?

Although if it really will be Kirk and Spock together at Starfleet Academy, canon has obviously taken a long walk off a short spacedock.


tommyrot - Jun 22, 2006 10:38:04 am PDT #2407 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is there any canon on their first meeting?


Tom Scola - Jun 22, 2006 10:39:14 am PDT #2408 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

J. J. Abrams knows not of the canon.


Dana - Jun 22, 2006 10:40:43 am PDT #2409 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Is there any canon on their first meeting?

I don't believe there is, movie and TV-wise, but Spock was stationed on the Enterprise before Kirk got command of it.


DavidS - Jun 22, 2006 10:43:05 am PDT #2410 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Wow, I've got that boxed set, and always heard that The 7th Victim is bleak, but that's a BOLD statement.

Lewton's theme (which they refer to several times in the box set documentary) is "Death is good." The Seventh Victim is the nihilistic ne plus ultra of Hollywood film. Very understated, and filled with existential dread.

God, I LOVED her in that,

Me too!

And I LOVE her zany short at the beginning.

Once again, Frank and I are as one in our movie taste. I TiVoed the movie just to save her zany short on my Cartoon Expressionism reel.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 22, 2006 10:59:04 am PDT #2411 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Once again, Frank and I are as one in our movie taste. I TiVoed the movie just to save her zany short on my Cartoon Expressionism reel.

What was it called...AFTERBIRTH OF A NOTION? NATION? Something like that.

My friend in college was also the type who might have started a documentary about lost shopping carts before realizing it was really, really...fucking boring.

I like to think that, given Guest's later improv proclivities, that he was also doing some of that here, and what we saw from JJL was close to her real personality (i.e. she usually likes playing the opposite of her personality). A boy can dream.

While I'm at it, there's an AU where either she or the Coens (SOMEONE!) dialed-down the Hepburn-isms in HUDSUCKER PROXY, because she had great energy and enthusiasm there, but was trying. Way. Way. Too. Hard.


Jessica - Jun 22, 2006 11:03:00 am PDT #2412 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

My friend in college was also the type who might have started a documentary about lost shopping carts before realizing it was really, really...fucking boring.

Heh. I actually had a TA in college who was doing his thesis (for an MFA in film) on boredom. His lecture was, completely unironically, unbelievably boring.

(The lecture from the one doing his thesis on Asian women in American porn? Much less so.)


DavidS - Jun 22, 2006 11:19:51 am PDT #2413 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

His lecture was, completely unironically, unbelievably boring.

I remember my high school English teacher arguing that Sinclair Lewis' Main Street was supposed to be boring, because it was about the stifling effects of middle American life.

We were unconvinced by this argument and by Main Street.