Maybe I've always been here.

Early ,'Objects In Space'


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tommyrot - Jun 22, 2006 10:38:04 am PDT #2407 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Is there any canon on their first meeting?


Tom Scola - Jun 22, 2006 10:39:14 am PDT #2408 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

J. J. Abrams knows not of the canon.


Dana - Jun 22, 2006 10:40:43 am PDT #2409 of 10001
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Is there any canon on their first meeting?

I don't believe there is, movie and TV-wise, but Spock was stationed on the Enterprise before Kirk got command of it.


DavidS - Jun 22, 2006 10:43:05 am PDT #2410 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Wow, I've got that boxed set, and always heard that The 7th Victim is bleak, but that's a BOLD statement.

Lewton's theme (which they refer to several times in the box set documentary) is "Death is good." The Seventh Victim is the nihilistic ne plus ultra of Hollywood film. Very understated, and filled with existential dread.

God, I LOVED her in that,

Me too!

And I LOVE her zany short at the beginning.

Once again, Frank and I are as one in our movie taste. I TiVoed the movie just to save her zany short on my Cartoon Expressionism reel.


Frankenbuddha - Jun 22, 2006 10:59:04 am PDT #2411 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Once again, Frank and I are as one in our movie taste. I TiVoed the movie just to save her zany short on my Cartoon Expressionism reel.

What was it called...AFTERBIRTH OF A NOTION? NATION? Something like that.

My friend in college was also the type who might have started a documentary about lost shopping carts before realizing it was really, really...fucking boring.

I like to think that, given Guest's later improv proclivities, that he was also doing some of that here, and what we saw from JJL was close to her real personality (i.e. she usually likes playing the opposite of her personality). A boy can dream.

While I'm at it, there's an AU where either she or the Coens (SOMEONE!) dialed-down the Hepburn-isms in HUDSUCKER PROXY, because she had great energy and enthusiasm there, but was trying. Way. Way. Too. Hard.


Jessica - Jun 22, 2006 11:03:00 am PDT #2412 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

My friend in college was also the type who might have started a documentary about lost shopping carts before realizing it was really, really...fucking boring.

Heh. I actually had a TA in college who was doing his thesis (for an MFA in film) on boredom. His lecture was, completely unironically, unbelievably boring.

(The lecture from the one doing his thesis on Asian women in American porn? Much less so.)


DavidS - Jun 22, 2006 11:19:51 am PDT #2413 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

His lecture was, completely unironically, unbelievably boring.

I remember my high school English teacher arguing that Sinclair Lewis' Main Street was supposed to be boring, because it was about the stifling effects of middle American life.

We were unconvinced by this argument and by Main Street.


Kalshane - Jun 22, 2006 1:41:00 pm PDT #2414 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Yeah, but I'm fairly sure (even ignoring the books) that it's canon that Kirk was pretty young at Starfleet Academy, with the whole "youngest person to ever beat the Kobayashi Maru test". That was in one of the movies, right?

I know Kirk was the youngest Captain in Starfleet. But no one actually beat the Kobayashi Maru scenario. It was, by its nature, unbeatable. After several tries, Kirk cheated and reprogrammed the computer because he didn't believe in unwinnable scenarios.


Trudy Booth - Jun 22, 2006 5:32:34 pm PDT #2415 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

To me the most amusing part of that story was Kirk reprogramming a computer.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 22, 2006 5:50:38 pm PDT #2416 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Well, they were 23rd century computers... maybe he just had to sweet talk it to get it to change its own programming?