Oooh. Hadn't heard of that one.
Although, being only "meh" at best on the series, my own take would be that the ending change there was value neutral, especially if you're just considering the movie on its own.
Bunch of wanna blessed-bes. Nowadays every girl with a henna tattoo and a spice rack thinks she's a sister to the dark ones.
Willow ,'Bring On The Night'
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Sean K - Apr 25, 2006 12:37:56 pm PDT #1512 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
§ ita § - Apr 25, 2006 12:42:20 pm PDT #1513 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
my own take would be that the ending change there was value neutral, especially if you're just considering the movie on its own
Leaving my insane adoration for the series aside, the story that preceded that ending was better served by a victory with some traction, plus a bit of open-endedness, as opposed to the delay of peril feeling I get from not killing the baddie, but just making it harder to get to you--but now he knows you exist, and he's pissed.
Jessica - Apr 25, 2006 12:42:59 pm PDT #1514 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Although, being only "meh" at best on the series, my own take would be that the ending change there was value neutral, especially if you're just considering the movie on its own.
HEY! Those are some extremely good-looking people you'd be putting out of work!
§ ita § - Apr 25, 2006 12:44:20 pm PDT #1515 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
And Jessica cuts right to the heart of the issue.
Sean K - Apr 25, 2006 1:08:11 pm PDT #1516 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I'm not saying they're not very pretty.... I can appreciate that much about the show.
And it gave RDA something to wash the MacGuyver mullett out of everybody's brains.
Strega - Apr 25, 2006 1:48:22 pm PDT #1517 of 10001
I can't think of a single instance that I've heard of and know some of the details about where a test audience brought about an improved product.
That's not usually the goal, though.
I will bet money that lots of bad movies would be even worse without test audiences. But nobody cares, because even improved, they're still bad movies. That kind of process is going to tend to make bad things better, and good things worse.
Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 25, 2006 2:14:01 pm PDT #1518 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Do Uwe Boll movies have test audiences? Because if there are movies out there that are worse than the versions of his movies that make it to the theaters, we should all Be Very Afraid.
Strega - Apr 25, 2006 3:35:11 pm PDT #1519 of 10001
Oh, oh! Yes, they do, and I hope those poor people got paid. Because originally Alone in the Dark had a different ending, and somehow that led to them adding captions or something that completely contradicted the visuals. And they added that extraordinarily long crawl at the beginning because when they tested it the first time, nobody understood what the hell was going on.
I don't think the crawl helped, really. But it did make the movie even funnier, so that's kind of an improvement.
Cashmere - Apr 25, 2006 3:43:33 pm PDT #1520 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.
I'm still holding a grudge against the test audience members who audibly gasped at Ralph Fiennes nude scenes at the end of Red Dragon. It was them that got some of the scenes...um...snipped.
Jessica - Apr 25, 2006 5:36:38 pm PDT #1521 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Eh...I tend to assume that any reports of "we had to cut this scene because X's penis is too frighteningly large" are urban legends, until someone produces pictures to prove me wrong.
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