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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, flaming otters, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Theodosia - Feb 04, 2006 6:57:08 am PST #4916 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Maybe potsmoking has unexpectedly revivifying aspects?

I wondered how you made out with the party....


Trudy Booth - Feb 04, 2006 7:02:07 am PST #4917 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

Oh, they didn't keep quiet. They played it "we're keeping quiet" while they had an obvious affair on set and then kept travelling together. And both of them have capitalized on their love lives for years.

And, benefit of the doubt, even if they were trying to be discrete, part of that mess was that he dogged his wife and she didn't feel obliged to keep quiet.

The paparazzi whine annoys me. It's SO cultivated. We barely have it in New York -- even Jackie O jogged in the park. If you want to be seen with X you have dinner at the chic place and get "caught." Certainly there are exceptions, but 99% of it is such a game.


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2006 7:08:32 am PST #4918 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

they didn't keep quiet.

I'm talking about making statements to the press. They did not, for months.

As for your obvious affair thing--that's information I don't have, so I can't comment. I have no idea when they got together.

The paparazzi whine annoys me. It's SO cultivated

Have you read A Socialite's Life or Just Jared? Are you telling me that Evangeline Lilly and Dominic Monaghan went to the chic pharmacy in order to be photographed? That Jennifer Garner wanted to have her every cup of coffee recorded? That Matthew Perry is lingering provocatively outside his gym?

Maybe all the celebs should move to NY (and use a time machine) since it's so much more sophisticated and laid back there.


msbelle - Feb 04, 2006 7:08:56 am PST #4919 of 10002
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Dude, and those women who wear the tiny skirts and then complain about being catcalled or followed by men. I mean really.


brenda m - Feb 04, 2006 7:12:05 am PST #4920 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Oh! The people my sister was cat-sitting for last week - turns out they were at the World Economic Forum. At one of the sessions, they were sitting right in front of Angelina. Said she was huge, so I guess that twins thing might be on the money.


Scrappy - Feb 04, 2006 7:17:05 am PST #4921 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

Celebs who go to the Ivy or spots like that, where they KNOW photographers hang out, are hypocritical when they complain. But getting hounded while just trying to grocery shop or grab a cup of coffee at Starbucks or lead a normal life must be a huge pain.


Trudy Booth - Feb 04, 2006 7:25:26 am PST #4922 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

People have discrete affairs all. the. time. Even actors. If everyone knows it, you're being obvious.

Why does anyone care if there is a snapshot of them with a cup of coffee? Or standing by a gym? Or at a pharmacy (unless you're buying condoms or something but then why would you go together if you were actually being discrete)? How is that some horrid invasion? (Driving someone off the road is another thing). I'm sure it gets annoying, but when you're cultivating publicity there isn't really an off switch.

I'll acknowledge that sometimes its out of control, but you've got to acknowledge that at least some of the time its some handy free publicity.

And it's not that New York is sophisticated and laid back, its that you go to LA for attention.

Dude, and those women who wear the tiny skirts and then complain about being catcalled or followed by men. I mean really.

If women in miniskirts hired publicists you'd have a point. Publicists don't just exist to deny reports you know.


§ ita § - Feb 04, 2006 7:32:47 am PST #4923 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

its that you go to LA for attention.

Or work. Whichever.

Why does one go to Hawaii? There's no shortage of jogging or shopping pictures coming from there, and there's just the one cast.

Why does anyone care if there is a snapshot of them with a cup of coffee?

So you don't mind. Bully for you. Remember when I said I'd never be famous? I don't even want to be famous because I'd like to buy tampons without it being a photo op. And if an actual celeb doesn't like that part of the gig, I'm not going to tell them they're wrong to feel that way. It seems perfectly reasonable from where I'm standing.


Jesse - Feb 04, 2006 7:37:16 am PST #4924 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I'll acknowledge that sometimes its out of control, but you've got to acknowledge that at least some of the time its some handy free publicity.

I think doing interviews about your relationship (or going to The Palm, because you know there are photographers outside) is handy free publicity. Having people follow you around is just creepy.


Scrappy - Feb 04, 2006 7:45:02 am PST #4925 of 10002
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I think people care because the pictures don't just appear--photographers have to be there and following you and trying to get close. This is just annoying and sometimes scary if you are an adult, but for celebs with kids, it must be really difficult. Having strangers follow you donw the street every time you step out of the house with a stroller can't be pleasant.