I'll just jump in my time machine, go back to the twelfth century, and ask the vampires to postpone their ancient prophesy for a few days while you take in dinner and a show.

Giles ,'Selfless'


Natter 42, the Universe, and Everything  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, flaming otters, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Frankenbuddha - Feb 02, 2006 7:11:26 am PST #4469 of 10002
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Next time, Frank, put on your stereo really loud, and then if he yells or thumps down at you, you know he's OK. :-)

Heh, I kinda considered that. I was just hoping to hear something - a cough, a footstep, another crash, ANYTHING - and didn't expect it to be 3 hours later. Plus, I was still trying to get to sleep, despite the concern, but my room is so quiet (aside from the occasional thing that goes bump in the night), that sometimes, if I'm not seriously sleepy tired, when I drift off and start to snore, the sound of my own snoring wakes me up again. It almost makes me miss the constant white noise of living right on the truck route.


sumi - Feb 02, 2006 7:17:02 am PST #4470 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

I think that Lindsay Lohan article was in Vanity Fair.


Allyson - Feb 02, 2006 7:23:27 am PST #4471 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

ita, i have a wee Congrats on the Brown Belt gift for you!


Nutty - Feb 02, 2006 7:24:16 am PST #4472 of 10002
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

Having been too skinny, I do disagree. I'm not insanely obsessed with the inadequacy of my body, but I know I'm healthier when I'm closer to 150 than 100.

But the article isn't about people who are skinny by means of intent or medical difficulty -- it explicitly is about people who are healthily slim, and overcome their native genetic tendencies with the application of extreme food and exercise discipline.

I think that eating 8000 calories a day as disordered and weird as eating only 500 calories a day. It's like the mirror-opposite of crash-dieting.

C'mon -- it's a pastime to look at Mischa Barton and that Olsen chick and Nicole Richie and mutter "Eat a sandwich! Get some flesh on that frame!"

Sure -- but they're standing in for the preponderance of skinniness (the vast majority of it painful) in Hollywood. Saying it to an individual, who does eat reasonably, is about as insane (and gauche) as saying, "You're fat! Stop eating!" to an individual.

Now, one might suggest that, because fat people endure this all the time, it's fair game on skinny people. Which, I can't entirely argue with that. But I'd rather work up some basic social rules that apply across all situations, like, Attempting to beat variety out of the human genome is a pointless application of brutality and Butting in on somebody else's food choices is about as rude as eating off that person's plate.


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2006 7:24:38 am PST #4473 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think that Lindsay Lohan article was in Vanity Fair.

And I think she tried to deny it afterwards.

i have a wee Congrats on the Brown Belt gift for you!

Oh, nice! Thank you so much. Is it a stick with which to beat my PT?


Allyson - Feb 02, 2006 7:26:45 am PST #4474 of 10002
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Hm. I can add a stick to it.


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2006 7:27:21 am PST #4475 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

it explicitly is about people who are healthily slim, and overcome their native genetic tendencies with the application of extreme food and exercise discipline.

But the things I mentioned not liking about being skinny apply to most skinny people. And it was just what my body wanted to do at that time of my life. I couldn't gain weight for shit. I still can't, really. I'm just grateful that my baseline is 30lbs higher than in university.

Plus, not liking how you look and tweaking your appearance is perfectly standard human animal behaviour. I don't know if overeating in order to achieve a more average build is more healthy than undereating to achieve a less average build, but I suspect so.


Dana - Feb 02, 2006 7:27:50 am PST #4476 of 10002
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Apparently New Orleans was hit by a tornado last night. My parents are fine, although they lost power during the night. But from where my mother says the tornado was, it came a little close for my comfort.


sumi - Feb 02, 2006 7:28:38 am PST #4477 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

Damn. NOLA can't get a break!


§ ita § - Feb 02, 2006 7:31:02 am PST #4478 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Apparently New Orleans was hit by a tornado last night

Hot damn.

Allyson, you don't have to include a stick. I have some stuff I can use.