Well, then, this is a day I'll feel good to be me.

Mal ,'Trash'


Natter 42, the Universe, and Everything  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, flaming otters, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


DavidS - Feb 01, 2006 8:04:24 am PST #4190 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

that it's not vague "injuries" they're talking about, but traumatic brain injury.

He's not going to be an anchorperson anymore.


Gudanov - Feb 01, 2006 8:05:48 am PST #4191 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

Creating chimeras is legitimate and useful scientific research; it's really happening. Of course, it isn't with the intent of creating monstrous half-animal/half-human

Well, speak for yourself.

Seriously, that's a good point though. There is some valuable research at risk. One of the reasons for splicing human DNA into animal cells is to skirt around having to use human stem cells (I think there is some research to that purpose, but I don't have a source at the moment)


Jessica - Feb 01, 2006 8:09:05 am PST #4192 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

it isn't with the intent of creating monstrous half-animal/half-human

"Monstrous" is such a loaded word. Can't we just call them Chimeran-Americans?


Sue - Feb 01, 2006 8:09:12 am PST #4193 of 10002
hip deep in pie

On CBS last night, they covered Woodruff and Vogt returning to the US, and they mentioned they were only two of about 24 injured people on being transported on the flight (the rest being injured military people) and that there's flights like that all the time (weekly, I think was the word they used). Very sobering.


tommyrot - Feb 01, 2006 8:10:04 am PST #4194 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Well, speak for yourself.

Hush. They have to say that, to maintain public support. But in their secret meetings and isolated research facilities (such as the one run by Dr Moreau) they can be more open about their goals.


JZ - Feb 01, 2006 8:11:50 am PST #4195 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Sorry about the longness, I just wanted to share some thoughts about it.

Gud, I appreciated it all hugely.

I have my doubts about this. I suspect when it comes to funding the idea will wither away.

Yuh. My eyes were already rolling forever, but this is where they fell right out of my head. The basic science research, the 70,000 new teachers, the this and that and the other, all simultaneous with the $14 billion permanent tax cut. I can't quite see how he expects to manage it unless he just plans to take advantage of being Commander in Chief of the US Mint and print a shitload more money, and that way lies betwixt-wars Germany, with people trundling a wheelbarrow of paper money to the grocer for a loaf of bread.

Also, you know, what Dana said, about the devastation of the Gulf Coast and the destruction of New Orleans and the total fucking lack of accountability and total fucking lack of interest in any serious attempt to make any of it better.

Blarg. Now my stomach hurts.


flea - Feb 01, 2006 8:12:09 am PST #4196 of 10002
information libertarian

I think it's too early to tell about Woodruff, based on what they've told the public. Until the man wakes up and they can do some diagnostics, they can only make the vaguest of guesses. I mean, so far all they know is he can feel in his extremities and his brain isn't swollen any more (which is good, it went down fast). Whether he'll have to relearn to walk and talk is a question for a couple of weeks from now. The brain is tricksy, and some people with shockwave trauma only, no wounds, have serious problems, whereas there was some historical guy who took an iron bar through the head and seemed unaffected.

Vogt seems to be doing okay, on the other hand.


Gudanov - Feb 01, 2006 8:12:36 am PST #4197 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

On CBS last night, they covered Woodruff and Vogt returning to the US, and they mentioned they were only two of about 24 injured people on being transported on the flight (the rest being injured military people) and that there's flights like that all the time (weekly, I think was the word they used). Very sobering.

I believe that for every lethal casualty in Iraq there are about 10 non-lethal casualties.


flea - Feb 01, 2006 8:14:21 am PST #4198 of 10002
information libertarian

Whoops. I looked up Phineas Gage (iron bar dude) and he was affected mentally. The surprising part was his lack of dying. [link]


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2006 8:14:28 am PST #4199 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If your plantains are potatoey you're eating the wrong ones, or too soon. They're so much sweeter than bananas. They're okay boiled, but fried in thick slices they're breakfast candy. That was the food we'd get in trouble for as kids--we were always obsessive about their fair allocation, and my mother hates when you count food.

Get Jamaicans near a buffet with fried plantains, and you'll see a happy people.