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Gudanov - Jan 20, 2006 5:34:35 am PST #1557 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

But AFAIK the new figures will be a better reflection of reality.

I think it's all for the good to get more realistic figures, but I'm just curious what the impact will be. In semi-related news, Mercedes is getting ready to sell diesel models that will be clean enough for California and New York.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 20, 2006 5:42:46 am PST #1558 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I wonder why the hybrids were muscalculated so? I've been very watchful of my mileage with a normal gas-burner (hey, at 100+ gallons a month I have to be) and it's very close to the estimated mpg.


Gudanov - Jan 20, 2006 5:46:25 am PST #1559 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

I think the current testing method just happens to be ideal conditions for hybrids to turn in big mileage numbers.


Sean K - Jan 20, 2006 5:48:02 am PST #1560 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I wonder why the hybrids were muscalculated so? I've been very watchful of my mileage with a normal gas-burner (hey, at 100+ gallons a month I have to be) and it's very close to the estimated mpg.

Do you drive it properly, Matt (I'm betting you do)? I know that with NoiseDesign's hybrid, you're supposed to drive it much differently than a normal car. If you stomp on the gas to accelerate and such, the electric motor kicks in much less frequently. ND has even talked about finessing the heater on cold days, only turning it on it spurts, so that he can still use the electric motor most of the time (high-energy systems, like the heater, force hybrids to run off the gas motor).


tommyrot - Jan 20, 2006 5:53:46 am PST #1561 of 10002
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

How the EPA tests mileage: [link]

Specific speeds, acceleations, etc of the EPA tests: [link]

Huh. The highway mileage is tested at an average speed of 48 mph and a maximum speed of 60 mph.

Of course, when this test standard was put into effect we had a national 55 mph speed limit.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 20, 2006 6:15:43 am PST #1562 of 10002
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

So if you're a retiree in Florida, the mileage figures may be accurate.

Do you drive it properly, Matt (I'm betting you do)?

The police departments of Jonesboro and Memphis might give a different answer than I, but I keep it maintained regularly and avoid jack rabbit starts, etc.


Kat - Jan 20, 2006 6:31:53 am PST #1563 of 10002
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

Hmph.

You did say public domain.

I did a headstand for 5 minutes. It was really really really really a long time. When the instructor left the room at the beginning and then came back twas freaky. And, I was still 5 minutes short of how long I was supposed to stay in the pose. Crazy.

Alibelle, I didn't get your resume by email. Meep. Just got your resume. I'll print it out right now.Got your resume but it's all in code and is screwed up. Please advise.


Sean K - Jan 20, 2006 6:32:06 am PST #1564 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Huh. The highway mileage is tested at an average speed of 48 mph and a maximum speed of 60 mph.

At speed is actually where most hybrids perform worst. THey're best at stop and go traffic (such as the rush hour freeway traffic of any major American city). I wonder if the revised numbers will lower the highway milage, but raise their city milage. It would be really funny if hybrids wind up with a bigger number city than highway.


sumi - Jan 20, 2006 6:33:17 am PST #1565 of 10002
Art Crawl!!!

If you live in or near a city -- the hybrids make more sense.

My cousin does most of her driving and commuting on the highway or on country roads.


Gudanov - Jan 20, 2006 6:33:48 am PST #1566 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping

Some of them already do have higher city than highway ratings. I think that's the case for both the Prius and Escape.