Tara: That was funny if you've studied Taglarin mystic rites and... are a total dork... Riley: Then how come Xander didn't laugh?

'Selfless'


Spike's Bitches 28: For the Safety of Puppies...and Christmas!  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Scrappy - Feb 09, 2006 1:56:56 pm PST #8264 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

JZ is wise.

I spent the last couple of years feeling exactly as Tep does. I was the heaviest I'd ever been. I was out of shape. I was not eating well. We are struggling to get out of lots of debt. I wasn't reading much. I felt like my life was out of my control. None of that worked to get me to change my habits. It wasn't until I realized that I had the thrilling coincidences of A. having my blood pressure getting high enough that the Doc thought I might I need medication, B. being too fat for my clothes, and C. not having any money to buy new ones if I got any fatter, that I was motivated to do something. I was just too damn broke to gain any more weight.

I feel better now that I have lost 16 lbs (so far--15 more to go)--and I have more to wear--but I know how the hate monsters can put the smackdown on unbearably sometimes.


Atropa - Feb 09, 2006 1:57:23 pm PST #8265 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Everyone here is good folks, and strong, and trying so hard to struggle through so much shit, and even if you can't silence the self-hating voices, you have to trust that they're not telling you the truth. Even when they tell you that people like me are BS'ing you to be nice, and if we really knew you we'd be repulsed and hate you all the more. Which is exactly what my voice tells me about my real self and what all of you would do if you really knew me.

Yes, this. And yes, I know that being told that sort of thing doesn't even come close to silencing the voices of the Low Self-Esteem Monsters, but sometimes it helps.


Beverly - Feb 09, 2006 2:00:46 pm PST #8266 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Yes. Yes to having the feelings, and yes to "knowing" the feelings aren't true, necessarily. But they still make me feel that way. JZ is amazingly wise.


JZ - Feb 09, 2006 2:11:45 pm PST #8267 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

I know that being told that sort of thing doesn't even come close to silencing the voices of the Low Self-Esteem Monsters, but sometimes it helps.

I got into a bad self-punishment loop when I tried to silence the voices altogether; every time they yipped at me, I felt worse for not being strong enough to muffle them, which just proved how right they were after all about me, which just made them crow with triumph, which made me feel even worse and more self-defeated, which made them louder, etc. ad infinitem.

It was a huge relief to have the therapist suggest I treat them the same way I treated the people outside my brain who did disappointing or insensitive things: instead of wasting my time and energy and setting myself up for more failure by trying to make them stop, I could just shrug, say, "Well, that was nasty but totally unsurprising," step around it and keep moving.


JZ - Feb 09, 2006 2:14:24 pm PST #8268 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

Not wise, just well-trained. And shit, I bloody well ought to be. The amount of money that went into all that therapy probably could've gotten me through a master's/Ph.D. program (for about a year I was up to 3 times a week, or maybe 4; it was so bad that whole year is sort of a blur and I just don't remember); I'd better have some kind of edjumafication to show for it.


Cass - Feb 09, 2006 2:19:24 pm PST #8269 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

treat them the same way I treated the people outside my brain who did disappointing or insensitive things: instead of wasting my time and energy and setting myself up for more failure by trying to make them stop, I could just shrug, say, "Well, that was nasty but totally unsurprising," step around it and keep moving.
I think I am going to use this as a mantra for dealing with the bugfuck crazy parts of my family. And really? They aren't all bugfuck so much as they are clearly delineating which are and which are not. Which is sickening but comforting because there are some that I just can write off. I will still end up around them at times and I can be perfectly pleasant when that happens.

Oh. And well-trained *is* smart. Though not eel-trained which is what I wrote twice. My typo made me want sushi.


JZ - Feb 09, 2006 2:40:41 pm PST #8270 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

In completely other news, I am mad in love with this t-shirt.


Aims - Feb 09, 2006 2:59:49 pm PST #8271 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

LOVE that t-shirt.

No one's posting. pout pout pout.


Steph L. - Feb 09, 2006 3:01:05 pm PST #8272 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Sorry, Teppy can't post right now, as she's too busy with a full program of self-loathing. Please leave an insult about her stomach at the sound of the beep.


Jessica - Feb 09, 2006 3:01:46 pm PST #8273 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I only just got home. The next time I'm in LA, remind me there are some people I have to kill.