Six hours ... when it isn't more (shudder). A friend described it as the Bataan Death March of meetings ... which pretty well fits how we feel at the end.
ETA: I come to the Buffistas ... although not having any brain function does deter zombies.
What? I'm not allowed to hit people? Wesley: Not people capable of genocide. Angel: Those are exactly the types of people I should be allowed to hit!
'Just Rewards (2)'
Spike's Bitches 28: For the Safety of Puppies...and Christmas!
[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.
Toddson - Feb 09, 2006 10:39:04 am PST #8213 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"
flea - Feb 09, 2006 10:39:52 am PST #8214 of 10001
information libertarian
As someone who did a lot of research into antidepressants, pregnancy and breastfeeding, let me first say that there's not a lot of research out there, since it's unethical to do randomized control studies on pregnant or breastfeeding women. So the research that's done is after the fact, asking women who've been on an AD for their pregnancy about their experiences. Second, that you should consult a psychiatrist who has experience treating pregnant or breastfeeding women, or is willing to do her homework.
New studies aside, what I learned at the time I was pregnant with Casper (3 years ago now) was that most people consider Prozac to be the safest AD when taken in pregnancy, since it's been in use the longest and the anecdotal data would have already shown up any serious or widespread problems (like major birth defects). Other SSRIs were believed to be much like Prozac, but had been in use for shorter time frames. SSRIs were (and are) in general known to bring higher risk of some things like low birth weight in the baby. However, maternal depression was also believed to cause low birth weight, so it's six of one, half dozen of the other. There was some discussion about withdrawal symptoms (including agitation, and I wonder, how would they tell?!) in newborns, but I haven't read that particular study (I stayed on Prozac, which is expressed in breast milk, so no possibility withdrawal at birth for Casper.)
For breastfeeding, there are several SSRIs that are not expressed in breast milk (this is pretty easy to test ethically - take some milk and test it for the chemicals). So if you are breastfeeding and need to be on an AD, there are some that will not affect your child at all. Prozac isn't one of them; I don't know off-hand which are which, though.
Ginger - Feb 09, 2006 10:40:41 am PST #8215 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda
Oh, Cass. I'm sorry.
Can I have waffles instead, Gud?
About halfway through a six-hour staff meeting, my head would have exploded. I hope there was coffee and snacks.
Toddson - Feb 09, 2006 10:42:40 am PST #8216 of 10001
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"
They provide lunch ... bad Chinese food ... and soft drinks, coffee, water. I'm working on how to sleep with my eyes open.
Gudanov - Feb 09, 2006 10:43:29 am PST #8217 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping
Can I have waffles instead, Gud?
Alas, I have no waffle iron.
Laura - Feb 09, 2006 10:43:54 am PST #8218 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.
{{Cass}} Always
Happy Birthday Maidengurl! May this year be about a billion times more fun than the last.
Perkin's flight is delayed about 1-1/2 hours. Boo. But even if she gets to Casa Holt at 11 tonight her body is gonna think it is only 8. Party!
6 hours of meetings in 6 months is about as much as I'd like.
flea - Feb 09, 2006 10:45:10 am PST #8219 of 10001
information libertarian
Toodson needs a Blackberry, so she can post from meetings like ita.
I'm sorry for your and your mother's loss, Cass.
Um, depression in pregnancy and after is sort of a pet topic for me. In case you couldn't figure that out. I worry that many women don't get treated because they are so afraid of taking medication that will affect the child. The baby matters, a great deal, but mothers' sanity matters too.
Steph L. - Feb 09, 2006 10:54:37 am PST #8220 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism
Ugh. I hate me today.
That is all.
Betsy HP - Feb 09, 2006 10:56:20 am PST #8221 of 10001
If I only had a brain...
Um, depression in pregnancy and after is sort of a pet topic for me. In case you couldn't figure that out. I worry that many women don't get treated because they are so afraid of taking medication that will affect the child. The baby matters, a great deal, but mothers' sanity matters too.
Yes, this. And depression makes it too easy to blame yourself anyway.
Cass - Feb 09, 2006 10:58:30 am PST #8222 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
Six hour meeting? ::blinks:: Holy carp!
what I learnedWow.
I worry that many women don't get treated because they are so afraid of taking medication that will affect the child. The baby matters, a great deal, but mothers' sanity matters too.Not that I am actually planning on doing the pregnancy thing, but I very much agree with you.
Ugh. I hate me today.No! Why?
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I'm just ... just ... still really upset that my neicelet was sent to Vermont and I'm not even supposed to really talk to her about anything or know why this happened. And maybe I am railing against this because all of the other losses leave me no one to rail against but god or no one, depending on your beliefs.