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Spike's Bitches 28: For the Safety of Puppies...and Christmas!  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Steph L. - Jan 18, 2006 8:49:01 am PST #5063 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Remember that women hit their sexul peak in their thirties.

They SO do. t /loving my 30s, oh yes, I am

Also taking medication often adds to difficulty/inability to orgasm.

And finally, I think that most women don't orgasm just from vaginal intercourse -- they need clitoral stimulation, too.

You're a GOOD boyfriend, BTW.


vw bug - Jan 18, 2006 8:49:13 am PST #5064 of 10001
Mostly lurking...

For those keeping track at home...

Library fines are taken care of. $1125 went down to $61.25 when I begged, which was mostly covered by work (because they're very nice).

I'm feeling accomplished.


Aims - Jan 18, 2006 8:49:50 am PST #5065 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

GO VW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Sean K - Jan 18, 2006 8:50:02 am PST #5066 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

I think that most women don't orgasm just from vaginal intercourse -- they need clitoral stimulation, too.

This is ALSO something that Dr. Drew says quite regularly.


Steph L. - Jan 18, 2006 8:50:49 am PST #5067 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

I think that most women don't orgasm just from vaginal intercourse -- they need clitoral stimulation, too.

This is ALSO something that Dr. Drew says quite regularly.

And, speaking for my people, we appreciate the hell out of it.


DebetEsse - Jan 18, 2006 8:50:55 am PST #5068 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Yay, vw!


Jars - Jan 18, 2006 8:53:16 am PST #5069 of 10001

There's a good chance that it's not psychiatric in nature, but physical, Gris.

I was about to say the very opposite, but as I'm a young twenty-something woman, I assume all twenty-something women are like me.

Does she masturbate at all, Gris? Because that might help take some of the pressure off her feeling like she owes you something (but not in a bad way!) - If she can take time figuring out what she likes. The history of mood disorders and drugs would also lead me to think that problem is psychological. But that's just my $00.02.


Gris - Jan 18, 2006 9:03:29 am PST #5070 of 10001
Hey. New board.

And finally, I think that most women don't orgasm just from vaginal intercourse -- they need clitoral stimulation, too.

This I more than know. Actually, GG and I have not had intercourse, and will almost certainly not be doing so anytime soon. I have built my sexual experiences on clitoral stimulation.

She's 24, so, yes, pretty young. I know that she's not at her sexual peak by any means, but the extreme suddenness with which she can lose interest seems a bit beyond the norm, to me.

Dr. Betty is fun to read, though the incredible amount of book-pimping is getting a bit annoying, and I haven't really read anything yet beyond the standard advice most decent sex books (of which I've read several - I'm a big researcher) would give. Maybe I'll drop by a B&N and skim her books.

ETA: No, Jars, she doesn't. I'm trying to convince her to try, sometimes. It's an uphill battle, though. Why so many women feel odd about it has always been a mystery to me.


Steph L. - Jan 18, 2006 9:04:34 am PST #5071 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

This I more than know.

Then you ARE a good boyfriend! Seriously.


DavidS - Jan 18, 2006 9:13:31 am PST #5072 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Gris, I think Sean's point is useful. It's really not uncommon for a woman in her early 20s to have trouble reaching an orgasm. From my experience, many women need to learn/explore their sexuality in a way that tends to be more complex than what men experience. (Not for all women, of course. Some know it immediately.)

But I've known a number of women who had to learn how to let their body go, explore a number of things to find out what worked for them, to learn how to let the orgasm build.

And even aside from the issue of orgasms, I think this is often true for young women and their sexuality. That there's a slower, more involved process in learning and knowing their body.

The good news is, this is an invitation to explore. I would definitely recommend trying to go slower with clitoral stimulation if she's getting an overamped response. The trick is that she needs to find and hold onto the thread of that desire as you're unwinding it slowly. This is one way you can help her learn her body. If she's open to it, you might also want to talk to her about her fantasies. And then...tongues, fingers and/or vibrators in new places. Heh. Just got a visual of Richard Pryor's bit: "Now just relax while I kickstart this thing. VRMMMMMMMMM!"