I think it's reasonable (and hopefully common) for men to be feminists. However, I sincerely doubt that many of these men-lesbians actually feel they're a woman in a man's body, and that's where the whole thing fails for me.

Er, yeah. Most of the men I've ever met who've said that (EDIT: about being a man-lesbian--being a man-feminist is quite good, I say) are...smarmy jackholes. Minus the one or two who were transgendered and actually were BECOMING women...:)

meara--you crossdress. In your experience, is it something that can be done without any gender dysphoria?

Hrm. Yes and no. Like said above, it's easier for women to do it and not even be NOTICED, so it's not as much a thing, necessarily. OTOH, many women who dress almost exclusively in men's clothing and so on, well, yeah, there's some dysphoria going on there. Personally, while I love a good genderfuck and find it really hot, I don't feel any more gender dysphoria than your average woman does, I think? But enjoying dressing up as a guy is just...fun! But it's not the same for guys, because of our culture--dressing up as a girl for them is a whole other thing, usually, so those who actually DO it probably have more issue, ya know?

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Poor Cindy, your whole family fell over like slow moving dominoes. Next time maybe everybody gargles with peroxide and wears little hazmat suits until the crud passes victim #1.

No kidding. I didn't have my favorite cleanser early in the week (Clorox Quick Clean--or something like that--it's got bleach) and I'm blaming some of this on that.

This was the slowest moving stomach virus I can remember us having (although we might have had a slow one in early 2001 too, but I've mostly blocked it out). I'm not sure if Julia's in the clear or not. I'd say she is, because she had some symptoms early last week. But Ben had those symptoms early last week, and then had the full blown virus late in the week.

I'd like to open the windows, but it's too cold.

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I can't really deconstruct Izzard's sexuality based on interviews.

I'm sorry if it seemed I was backing you into that position. I'm not hardly surprised it comes across a million ways. Me, I had a little bit invested in seeing it one way (all man plus extra woman, basically) so I was interested in exploring the opposition.

so those who actually DO it probably have more issue, ya know?

I love the idea of a perfectly straight (not even bi, because it confuses the issue) perfectly happy to be a guy guy dressing in women's clothes because he likes them, and doesn't care what other people think.

Whenever it happens.

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I am back from lunch with Sail and brenda. Sadly, my digital camera battery would not take a charge, so I have no pictures. Brenda took some with her camera phone, but dunno if she has a way of hosting them.

My understanding of the "lesbian in a man's body" thing is a man who loves women but doesn't approach and interract with women in a manner consistent with traditional male gender roles, but rather in androgynous or feminine ways. Gah, it's been ages since I met someone who described himself that way, and I can't explain it any better....

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Pretty holiday pictures! I forgot to take any pictures this year.

The semi-annual sale starts tomorrow, and we are supposed to have a snow storm.

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The last time I met a guy who called himself that, he said that he said it because he liked to eat pussy. He was not a feminist, nor said it for any other reason that to get women to pay attention to him. He was all about the easy lay.

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damn... so the conclusion is that you have to know the guy to know what he means when he says something vaguely cryptic.

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I can't really deconstruct Izzard's sexuality based on interviews.

I'm sorry if it seemed I was backing you into that position.

Oh, no, that wasn't it. I just wanted to be clear that, while I was using Izzard as an example of a guy who calls himself a male lesbian and *isn't* using the term to be a smarmy jackhole, there's such a vast continuum of gender identity that unless you know the person in question, it's impossible to suss out where exactly they fall on that continuum.

Though I tend to agree with meara that, in our culture, because it *does* tend to be such an issue for men to wear women's clothing, and since they can get their asses kicked just for doing it, the ones who do cross-dress probably have more going on than just liking the clothes.

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Of course, guys can wear women's undies secretly. Any number of them are probably the equivalent of "tomboys" on the gender-comfort continuum.

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nods sagely

Pinnochio, in Shrek II, for example. Whereas the Big Bad Wolf would fall more into the actual out-and-proud-Transvestite category.

...what?

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