This standard is really going to cut down on a lot of talking altogether.

You say that like it's a bad thing.

leave such comments to people who have any clue at all what they're actually saying.

This standard is really going to cut down on a lot of talking altogether.

Yeah, well, smarmy dudes shouldn't be talking anyway.

Technically it's not New Year's Day, but...I feel like I ought to be doing something productive and new year esque and all that today (since I had off work). Instead, I slept in late, and have been catching up on LJ and suchlike, for several hours. YOU PEOPLE do not help--550 messages? Harumph.

My NYE was OK, my New Year's Day was better (if you discount the first couple hours of it, when I was...ahem...worshipping a porcelain god).

I just found these Eddie Izzard comments:

His latest assessment of his 'gift', is that 'I'm all boy, plus extra girl - not even half and half. I've worked out: I'm all boy, mentally, plus girl-stuff.'

and

'I'd like to be able to wake up and think, "What clothes shall I wear?" but I've actually compartmentalised it.' So does he feel divided in two? 'Some women don't like makeup and great dresses and some women do, and some men do, and I'm one.'

Which has been my general understanding. The article also says things like

I have no doubt that his need for women's clothing and eye shadow is deeply felt, 'definitely internal,' as he says.

and

But his transvestism can't be simply about clothes, because that seems too superficial, scarcely worth the stress of coming out, of being pointed at and talked about on the New York subway, or of getting into fights.

Those are the interviewer's opinions, not his, so who knows? I didn't research very deeply -- this was only the second interview I looked at.

wrt Izzard and gender issues - I thought he just liked to wear women's clothes too. Which is, in some ways, not a gender-confusing thing, inasmuchas lots of women like to wear trousers, and in Egypt most men wear robes, and all that stuff. But it's a bit more complicated, because Izzard likes to wear women's trousers/jackets/etc specifically, doesn't he? So it's not simply aesthetic. Plus, in one of the DVDs of one of the tours (er, I forget which) he has false breasts, and, bless him, he talks about the whole wanting-to-have-breasts thing as part of the act. Which left me thinking "...huh..." on the whole gender identification thing.

...Nope, no conclusions here. Just "gosh, isn't life/sex/self complex" type of thoughts.

In this Salon interview: [link] , Izzard says:

How do you explain the allure of dressing up in women's clothes?

It's not an allure, it's just a sexuality. It's the only way I can express the feminine side of myself as a member of the transgender community. If you have an outwardly biological bloke's body, then that's the only way you can move toward where you feel more comfortable. I mean, women can already do it -- they can be tomboys and that's no problem.

That reads to me as some degree of gender dysphoria.

Though it doesn't really matter, does it? I was just trying to offer a different perspective on guys who call themselves lesbians in women's bodies -- they're not all being smarmy jackholes.

If he wants tits, he can have mine. I'm tired of them. Hanging around, mooching off me, doing nothing productive, getting in the way. My husband, however, considers them decorative, and he should have some say in how his environment looks.

meara--you crossdress. In your experience, is it something that can be done without any gender dysphoria? And that's not Izzard-related, just general.

The person I know who most determinedly crossdressed recently started the medical transgender procedure.

I've always thought one of the perks to being a chick is that I could wear men's clothes without raising too much of an eyebrow. However, it's been years since I looked male with any consistency--and when I did, it wasn't on purpose.

I'm not sure why I like men's clothes--and since I'm too lazy to shop with too much of a purpose, it's not like I go to the trouble of dressing up like a guy, since that'd be work. Just sometimes it's all men's clothes.

Prosthetics? No interest there.

eta:

I mean, women can already do it -- they can be tomboys and that's no problem.

See, that's the thing. I don't think tomboying is gender dysphoria--it's just a rejection of convention. I've never wanted to be a guy.

See, that's the thing. I don't think tomboying is gender dysphoria--it's just a rejection of convention. I've never wanted to be a guy.

I totally agree there. But I don't think his "tomboy" statement is representative of his entire sexuality. It might be the comparison that works best when he's interviewed by people who, by and large, don't understand a transvestite POV.

I can't really deconstruct Izzard's sexuality based on interviews. Just thought I'd offer an example.

I think it's reasonable (and hopefully common) for men to be feminists. However, I sincerely doubt that many of these men-lesbians actually feel they're a woman in a man's body, and that's where the whole thing fails for me.

Er, yeah. Most of the men I've ever met who've said that (EDIT: about being a man-lesbian--being a man-feminist is quite good, I say) are...smarmy jackholes. Minus the one or two who were transgendered and actually were BECOMING women...:)

meara--you crossdress. In your experience, is it something that can be done without any gender dysphoria?

Hrm. Yes and no. Like said above, it's easier for women to do it and not even be NOTICED, so it's not as much a thing, necessarily. OTOH, many women who dress almost exclusively in men's clothing and so on, well, yeah, there's some dysphoria going on there. Personally, while I love a good genderfuck and find it really hot, I don't feel any more gender dysphoria than your average woman does, I think? But enjoying dressing up as a guy is just...fun! But it's not the same for guys, because of our culture--dressing up as a girl for them is a whole other thing, usually, so those who actually DO it probably have more issue, ya know?